How can I solve limx->infinity (x/x+1)^x using L'Hospital's rule?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit as x approaches infinity for the expression (x/(x+1))^x. Participants are exploring the use of L'Hospital's rule and other mathematical concepts to arrive at the correct limit.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss various methods, including taking the natural logarithm of the expression and considering series expansions. Some express confusion about the application of L'Hospital's rule and Taylor series.

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There are multiple lines of reasoning being explored, with some participants suggesting the use of L'Hospital's rule while others indicate that the limit can be approached more directly. Guidance has been offered regarding rewriting the expression to facilitate the limit evaluation.

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Some participants mention a lack of familiarity with Taylor series and express uncertainty about the steps involved in applying L'Hospital's rule. There is also a reference to the expected answer being 1/e, which adds to the context of the discussion.

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l'hospitals rulee! major help

1. i don't know how to do this question
limx->infinity (x/x+1)^x. i keep gettin the rong answer, some heelp pleasez:confused:




2.the right answer is 1/e but I am not getting that, i tried many diff ways, i can't post my work it here because its too long and confusing



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Consider the series expansion for e^[1/x], when x is large.
 
umm so when x is large 1/x = 0 so that means e^o = 1, I am still lossttt
 
Do you know the Taylor series for e^y, when y is small?
 
noo..havent learned it =S
 
i took the ln of both sides, and then found the derivative, and i got the answer as zero.. so i got ln y= 0
den i used the fact that e^lny = y...there fore y= e^0 =S..
 
Hmmm, I'm not sure how to do it without recourse to a Taylor series expansion. It's easy to prove though that

e^x=1+x+x^2/2!+x^3/3+...

Have you done Taylor series at all?
 
noo i haven't :|
 
kk thnnxx for your help newayzz =)
 
  • #10
You suggested that L'hopital's rule should be used in the derivation. I played around with that and couldn't see it, but maybe someone else can work it out.

Let me know when you get the answer.
 
  • #11
You should have gotten something like x*ln(x/(x+1)) when you took the log. This is an infinity*0 form. To use L'Hopital you want to write it as 0/0 (or infinity/infinity). So write it as ln(x/(x+1))/(1/x). Now take derivative of the numerator and denominator and send x->infinity.
 
  • #12
There's no need for l'Hospital's rule, as this limit is elementary

\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty}\left(1-\frac{1}{x+1}\right)^{(x+1)\frac{x}{x+1}} =e^{-\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty}\frac{x}{x+1}}=e^{-1}
 
  • #13
Dick, Brilliant!
 
  • #14
dextercioby said:
There's no need for l'Hospital's rule, as this limit is elementary

\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty}\left(1-\frac{1}{x+1}\right)^{(x+1)\frac{x}{x+1}} =e^{-\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty}\frac{x}{x+1}}=e^{-1}

That's supposing that you know the Taylor series expansion of e^x. It's nice that you can prove it a completely different way.
 
  • #15
christianjb said:
Dick, Brilliant!

Thanks. Wish I could say I invented it, but it's a pretty routine thing to do.
 
  • #16
christianjb said:
That's supposing that you know the Taylor series expansion of e^x. It's nice that you can prove it a completely different way.

Pardon me ? I just the definition of "e". What's more elementary than that ??:rolleyes:
 

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