How can I solve the equation to find the value of k when the roots differ by 2?

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The discussion revolves around solving the quadratic equation \(2x^2 + 5x - k\) under the condition that its roots differ by 2. Participants explore various methods to find the value of \(k\), including the use of the quadratic formula and alternative approaches involving root relationships.

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  • Some participants suggest starting with the quadratic formula to find the roots of the equation.
  • Others emphasize the importance of the condition that the roots differ by 2, leading to the formulation of an equation based on this difference.
  • One participant proposes an alternative method by expressing the quadratic in terms of its roots and equating coefficients to derive \(k\).
  • There is a reiteration of the quadratic formula and its application to the specific equation, highlighting the need to compute the roots explicitly.
  • Some participants provide steps to isolate \(k\) from the equation derived from the roots' difference.

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Participants generally agree on the methods to approach the problem, but there is no consensus on a single solution or method being superior. Multiple approaches are discussed without resolving which is the most effective.

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Participants note that the roots are not provided, and the only information given is their difference. The discussion reflects various assumptions about the nature of the roots and the implications for solving for \(k\).

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The roots of the equation 2x^2+ 5x – k differ by 2. Find the value of k.

Can someone get me started? I found this question online and find it interesting.
 
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Begin by stating the roots of the quadratic, using the quadratic formula...what do you have?
 
MarkFL said:
Begin by stating the roots of the quadratic, using the quadratic formula...what do you have?

Discriminant?
 
RTCNTC said:
Discriminant?

No, the roots themselves. Recall, if:

$$ax^2+bx+c=0$$

then:

$$x=\frac{-b\pm\sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}$$

What are the roots of the given quadratic?
 
MarkFL said:
No, the roots themselves. Recall, if:

$$ax^2+bx+c=0$$

then:

$$x=\frac{-b\pm\sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}$$

What are the roots of the given quadratic?

The roots are not given. The roots differ by 2. This is the only data given.
 
RTCNTC said:
The roots are not given. The roots differ by 2. This is the only data given.

True, the roots are no given, but you can compute them...we should begin by equating the given quadratic to zero:

$$2x^2+5x–k=0$$

Using the quadratic formula, we find the roots to be:

$$x=\frac{-5\pm\sqrt{5^2-4(2)(-k)}}{2(2)}=\frac{-5\pm\sqrt{25+8k}}{4}$$

Now, if the roots are to differ by 2, then take the larger root, subtract the smaller, and set that difference equal to 2:

$$\frac{-5+\sqrt{25+8k}}{4}-\frac{-5-\sqrt{25+8k}}{4}=2$$

Now solve this for $k$...

Another approach would be to write:

$$2x^2+5x–k=2(x-(r+2))(x-r)=2x^2-4(r+1)x+2r(r+ 2)$$

Equating coefficients, we obtain:

$$-4(r+1)=5$$

$$k=-2r(r+ 2)$$

Solve the first to get $r$, and then use that value of $r$ in the second to determine $k$. :D
 
MarkFL said:
True, the roots are no given, but you can compute them...we should begin by equating the given quadratic to zero:

$$2x^2+5x–k=0$$

Using the quadratic formula, we find the roots to be:

$$x=\frac{-5\pm\sqrt{5^2-4(2)(-k)}}{2(2)}=\frac{-5\pm\sqrt{25+8k}}{4}$$

Now, if the roots are to differ by 2, then take the larger root, subtract the smaller, and set that difference equal to 2:

$$\frac{-5+\sqrt{25+8k}}{4}-\frac{-5-\sqrt{25+8k}}{4}=2$$

Now solve this for $k$...

Another approach would be to write:

$$2x^2+5x–k=2(x-(r+2))(x-r)=2x^2-4(r+1)x+2r(r+ 2)$$

Equating coefficients, we obtain:

$$-4(r+1)=5$$

$$k=-2r(r+ 2)$$

Solve the first to get $r$, and then use that value of $r$ in the second to determine $k$. :D

This problem is more involved than the other question in terms of solving for n. Your help and guidance is greatly appreciated.
 
As MarkFL commented, you need to solve the following for k:
$$\frac{-5+\sqrt{25+8k}}{4}-\frac{-5-\sqrt{25+8k}}{4}=2$$

[math](-5+\sqrt{25+8k}) - (-5-\sqrt{25+8k}) = 4 \cdot 2 = 8[/math]

[math](-5 - (-5)) + (\sqrt{25 + 8k} - - \sqrt{25 + 8k}) = 8[/math]

[math]2~\sqrt{25 + 8k} = 8[/math]

Can you finish from here?

-Dan
 
topsquark said:
As MarkFL commented, you need to solve the following for k:
$$\frac{-5+\sqrt{25+8k}}{4}-\frac{-5-\sqrt{25+8k}}{4}=2$$

[math](-5+\sqrt{25+8k}) - (-5-\sqrt{25+8k}) = 4 \cdot 2 = 8[/math]

[math](-5 - (-5)) + (\sqrt{25 + 8k} - - \sqrt{25 + 8k}) = 8[/math]

[math]2~\sqrt{25 + 8k} = 8[/math]

Can you finish from here?

-Dan

I got it from here.

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MarkFL said:
True, the roots are no given, but you can compute them...we should begin by equating the given quadratic to zero:

$$2x^2+5x–k=0$$

Using the quadratic formula, we find the roots to be:

$$x=\frac{-5\pm\sqrt{5^2-4(2)(-k)}}{2(2)}=\frac{-5\pm\sqrt{25+8k}}{4}$$

Now, if the roots are to differ by 2, then take the larger root, subtract the smaller, and set that difference equal to 2:

$$\frac{-5+\sqrt{25+8k}}{4}-\frac{-5-\sqrt{25+8k}}{4}=2$$

Now solve this for $k$...

Another approach would be to write:

$$2x^2+5x–k=2(x-(r+2))(x-r)=2x^2-4(r+1)x+2r(r+ 2)$$

Equating coefficients, we obtain:

$$-4(r+1)=5$$

$$k=-2r(r+ 2)$$

Solve the first to get $r$, and then use that value of $r$ in the second to determine $k$. :D

Yes, I got it now. Thank you for taking an interest in my textbook questions. Keep in mind that I will only post questions in this forum after trying to solve each one on my own several times first.
 

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