How Can I Solve This Complex Problem Involving Brownian Motion Variables?

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The discussion revolves around solving the expectation of a product of Brownian motion variables, specifically E[B(u)B(u+v)B(u+v+w)B(u+v+w+x)], with the condition 0

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant claims the solution is 3u^2 + 3uv + uw, asserting that there is no x in the answer.
  • Another participant challenges this claim, stating that the answer does not include x.
  • A third participant supports the original claim, insisting that the answer is correct without x.
  • One participant expresses unfamiliarity with the notation used and requests clarification on the definition of B(u).
  • A participant suggests that the solution involves conditional expectations and properties of Brownian motion, hinting that the absence of x in the solution is significant.
  • Another participant clarifies the notation and explains that Brownian motion variables are independent normally distributed random variables, leading to the evaluation of E(U(U+V)(U+V+W)(U+V+W+X).
  • This participant notes that terms with any variable to the first power will have an expectation of 0, simplifying the expression to E(U^4 + 3U^2V^2 + U^2W^2) = 3u^2 + 3uv + uw.

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Participants express disagreement regarding the correctness of the proposed solution, with some supporting the claim that the answer is correct and others challenging it. The discussion remains unresolved as differing viewpoints persist.

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There is a lack of consensus on the interpretation of the problem and the notation used, as well as the implications of the absence of x in the solution. The discussion highlights the complexity of evaluating expectations involving Brownian motion variables.

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can someone show me the solution for E[B(u)B(u+v)B(u+v+w)B(u+v+w+x)], for 0<u<u+v<u+v+w<u+v+w+x .the answer is 3u^2+3uv+uw
 
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It dosn't look right. There is no x in the answer.
 
it is the answer. with no x
 
I am not familiar with your notation. What is the definition of B(u)?
 
The solution is presumably judicious applications of conditional expectations and properties of Brownian motion. It's certainly worth having a go yourself and if you don't mind me asking how far have you got? As a (rather unhelpful) hint your first move is the reason x doesn't turn up in the solution.
 
Sorry I'm late - finally understood the notation. To refresh, Brownian motion variables are normally distributed with mean 0, variance ~ time, and independent increments.

For the problem stated: B(u) = U, B(u+v) = U + V, B(u+v+w) = U + V + W, and B(u+v+w+x) = U + V + W + X, where U, V, W, X are independent normally distributed random variables with mean 0 and variances u, v, w, x.

The question is then E(U(U+V)(U+V+W)(U+V+W+X)). To evaluate this, note that for any term in the expanded polynomial with any of the variables to the first power, the expectation (E) will be 0.
So we are then left with E(U4 + 3U2V2 + U2W2) = 3u2 + 3uv + uw.
 
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