How Can I Solve This Differential Equation with an Initial Condition of y(1)=7?

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The discussion revolves around solving the differential equation xdy=(x+y-4)dx with the initial condition y(1)=7. Participants are exploring methods to find the particular solution while navigating the challenges posed by the equation's structure.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to separate variables but expresses confusion about isolating x with dy. Some participants question the appropriateness of the separation of variables method, noting that the equation is not separable. Others suggest considering the standard form of a linear first-order differential equation, y' + P(x)y = Q(x), but indicate a lack of understanding of this approach.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and exploring different methods. Some guidance has been offered regarding the structure of the equation and hints towards integration, but no consensus or resolution has been reached.

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Participants are grappling with the initial condition and the specific form of the differential equation, which may be affecting their approach. There is a mention of textbook methods, indicating that participants are encouraged to refer to additional resources for clarification.

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Homework Statement

Find the particular solution of the differential equation xdy=(x+y-4)dx that satisfies the initial condition y(1)=7.

The attempt at a solution

Ok here's my first two steps...

dy = \frac{(x+y-4)}{x} dx
\frac{dy}{(x+y-4)} = \frac{dx}{x}

Now here's where I get messed up. How can I get the x out of the side with the dy? Could someone please explain how to finish this or If I'm headed in the right direction?
 
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Is "separation of variables" the only way you know to solve differential equations? This is NOT a "separable" equation.
 
Yea that's the only way I know how. But I'm looking at a different way now where they give you the standard equation y' +P(x)y = Q(x), but I don't quite understand it.
 
goaliejoe35 said:
Yea that's the only way I know how. But I'm looking at a different way now where they give you the standard equation y' +P(x)y = Q(x), but I don't quite understand it.

THat's a linear first-order differential equation. Usually, textbooks show the method for solving them. Try looking in your textbook.
 
Use a substitution of y=Vx


EDIT: nvm...now re-read your post...
 
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y' +P(x)y = Q(x)

goaliejoe35 said:
Homework Statement

Find the particular solution of the differential equation xdy=(x+y-4)dx that satisfies the initial condition y(1)=7.
goaliejoe35 said:
Yea that's the only way I know how. But I'm looking at a different way now where they give you the standard equation y' +P(x)y = Q(x), but I don't quite understand it.

Hi goaliejoe35! :smile:

Hint: first step: get the RHS x-only:

xdy - ydx = (x - 4)dx.

Does the LHS now remind you of anything?

If so, fiddle around with it until you get something you can integrate.

If not, go back to your book and look at y' +P(x)y = Q(x) again :smile:
 

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