How Can Schellbach's Formulae Help Calculate Pi from Complex Numbers?

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The discussion revolves around the application of Schellbach's formulae in calculating Pi using complex numbers. Participants explore various mathematical manipulations and representations involving complex numbers, particularly focusing on the imaginary unit i and its properties.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how to demonstrate the equivalence i*(i+1)=(i-1) in general, suggesting the use of long division or multiplication by desired terms in expansions.
  • Another participant proposes factoring i out of the numerator as a potential method for simplification.
  • A participant introduces the representation of complex numbers in polar form, noting that the quotient of a complex number and its conjugate results in an expression involving the angle.
  • One participant describes the standard method of simplifying fractions involving complex numbers by multiplying by the conjugate of the denominator, providing a specific example that leads to the conclusion that the expression simplifies to i.

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Participants present various methods and approaches without reaching a consensus on a single method or conclusion. Multiple viewpoints and techniques are explored, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

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Some mathematical steps and assumptions are not fully resolved, particularly regarding the generalization of the equivalences and the implications of using Schellbach's formulae.

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Of course I can see that i*(i+1)=(i-1) but is there some way (long division?) to show this in general? To show for example that i = {(2+i)(3+i)/(2-i)(3-i)}. Or to come up with these equivalencies, does one just multiply i by whatever you desire in the later expansion. I am reading about Schellbach's formulae to calculate Pi from i.

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The easiest way to at least see this would probably be to factor i out of the numerator.
 
Note that [tex]z=a+bi = re^{i\theta}[/tex] and [tex]\bar z=a-bi = re^{-i\theta}[/tex].

So, [tex]\frac{z}{\bar z}=e^{i(2\theta)}[/tex].

In your two examples, (i-1) and (2+i)(3+i) make an angle of pi/2 with their complex conjugates.
 
Or, the standard way to represent a fraction as a complex number: multiply both numerator and denominator by the complex conjugate of the denominator:
[tex]\frac{i- 1}{i+ 1}= \frac{i-1i}{i+ 1}\frac{-i+1}{-i+1}[/tex]
[tex]= \frac{(i-1)(-i+1)}{1- i^2}= \frac{-i^2+ 2i+ 1}{1+1}= \frac{2i}{2}= i[/tex]
 

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