How can the Higgs Boson have a mass?

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The discussion revolves around the mass of the Higgs boson and its relationship with the Higgs field, exploring theoretical insights and conceptual understandings. Participants examine how the Higgs boson, which is associated with mass generation, can itself possess mass, and they delve into the implications of this relationship in the context of particle physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the Higgs boson is linked to the breaking of electroweak symmetry, suggesting an order of magnitude estimate for its mass around 100 GeV.
  • Others clarify that the Higgs field, rather than the Higgs boson itself, is responsible for giving mass to particles, with the boson being an excitation of this field.
  • A participant describes a conceptual model where high-energy collisions in particle accelerators create ripples in the Higgs field, leading to the production of Higgs bosons, which then decay into other particles.
  • Another participant notes that the energy available from the Higgs boson can lead to the creation of other particles with less mass, emphasizing the interaction dynamics within the Higgs field.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about their understanding and seeks validation of their simplified model of the Higgs field and boson interactions.

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The discussion features multiple competing views regarding the nature of the Higgs boson and its mass, with no consensus reached on the explanations provided. Participants offer differing interpretations of the Higgs field's role and the implications of the Higgs boson's mass.

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Some statements rely on specific interpretations of quantum field theory and may not encompass all theoretical perspectives. The discussion includes simplified models that may overlook complex interactions and assumptions inherent in particle physics.

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How can the Higgs Boson have a mass if it's what determines mass? Do we have any insight to why its mass is very large?
 
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Well naively speaking, the Higgs is associated with the breaking of electroweak symmetry. In particular, it gives the W and Z their masses, so an order of magnitude estimate puts it at 100GeV.
 
The Higgs Boson doesn't cause mass. The Higgs field does. The boson is just sort of a particle that results from traveling through the Higgs field. Thats how it was explained to me.
 
In quantum field theory every particle is the excitation of some field. A photon is the excitation of the electromagnetic field and so on. The Higgs boson is the excitation of the Higgs field. The other particles have rest mass because of their interaction with the Higgs field. And likewise the Higgs boson's rest mass arises because of its interaction with itself.
 
Please forgive my ignorance as I am only an interrested observer and not a physicist.

I would like to know if my line of thinking is correct.
Particle accelerator colides protons at almost the speed of light.

That results in a super high level of energy in a small area.

That energy is enough to cause a tiny wave in the Higgs field.

Higgs boson is born.

Higgs field is, for the purpose of a mental picture, similar to honey so the wave dissapates extremely quickly.

This decay means Higgs boson decays.

There is enough remaining energy in the other fields that are in the same location as the Higgs field to yield other particles with less mass thant the Higgs Boson.

Those are the particles that the Higgs decays into.

I'm trying to wrap my head around this and I've been taking notes. This seems like the basic idea of what I've been reading although hugely simplified. All matter with mass interracts with the higgs field but it takes a massive amount of energy to make a small ripple in that field and produce a Higgs Boson. Is that correct? And if not is there a better siimplification?
 
There is enough remaining energy in the other fields that are in the same location as the Higgs field to yield other particles with less mass thant the Higgs Boson.
The energy comes from the Higgs boson (the "waves" in the Higgs field) itself.

As a qualitative model, the concepts you describe should work.
 

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