How can the work required to remove a solid ball from water be calculated?

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The problem involves calculating the work required to remove a solid ball from water, where the ball has the same density as water. The context includes considerations of buoyancy and the forces acting on the ball as it is submerged in a tank of water.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Archimedes' Principle and the buoyant force acting on the ball. Some suggest that an integral may be necessary to calculate the work, while others argue that integration is not required due to the ball's neutral buoyancy.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing with various interpretations being explored. Some participants have provided insights into the relationship between buoyant force and gravitational force, while others are questioning the assumptions regarding the tank's dimensions and the effect of water displacement.

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There are constraints noted regarding the dimensions of the tank and the assumption that the rise in water level is negligible. Additionally, the problem specifies to ignore viscosity and surface tension.

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Homework Statement



A solid ball with radius r and mass m is located inside an opened wide tank filled with water. The ball has the same density with water.
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Calculate work required to get the ball out from the water!
Ignore viscosity and surface tension.

Homework Equations



Fbuoy = ρgV
Fgrav = -mg

The Attempt at a Solution



I have found its answer, W = mgr, but http://collectionofphysicsproblems.blogspot.com/" , it says there's a tricky solution.
I hope anyone could help on finding the tricky solution.
Thanks.
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Use Archimedes' Principle to figure this one. Think about the amount of water displaced when the ball is completely submerged.
 
Hmm...
Wouldn't it really need integral?
If I use archimedes buoyancy force, it would...
W=integral(ρgV dh)
 
An integration is not required. Archimedes Principle states the buoyant force is equal to the amount of fluid displaced. The ball has the same density of water so it neutrally buoyant (buoyant force equals gravitational force). So, an infinitesimal amount of force will move the ball (ignoring viscosity) in any direction. But work was done on the water when the ball was completely submerged (water level increased). Conservation of energy states the same amount of work is required to remove the ball from the tank.
 
It is given that the tank is wide, so the rise in the level of liquid is ~~ negligible.
and Neither we have dimensions for tank.
 

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