How Can Theta Be Integrated into the Projectile Motion Equation?

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Homework Help Overview

The original poster is tasked with deriving an equation to determine the initial muzzle velocity of a projectile launcher, given various angles (theta) and recorded horizontal distances. The height of the launcher is specified as 0.25 m.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to isolate the initial velocity components (Vix and Viy) using equations for horizontal and vertical motion. They express frustration in integrating theta into their derived equation, questioning the roles of varying variables such as dx and dy.
  • Subsequent posts explore the relationship between the components of velocity and the angle, with one participant suggesting a formula involving tan(theta) to relate Viy and Vix.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the derivation of equations related to projectile motion, with hints provided about the constant nature of horizontal velocity and the need for additional equations to relate the unknowns. There is no explicit consensus, but various interpretations and approaches are being explored.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes a specific time of flight for the projectile and expresses confusion regarding the integration of theta into their calculations. There are indications of missing information and assumptions that may affect the derivation process.

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Projectile Motion Derivation

Homework Statement



I am supposed to derive an equation that ends up giving me a solution for the initial muzzle velocity of the projectile launcher. I am given different sets of theta and the recorded distance for the x distances. The height of the projectile launcher is also .25m.

Homework Equations



I used dx = Vixt, dy = viyt2 + (1/2)at2 to somewhat isolate the Vix and Viy variables.

The Attempt at a Solution



After isolating the variables, I plugged them into the a2 + b2 = c2 formula (cause the two components form a right angle to find the overall velocity)

i got this equation..

sq((dx2 + (dy-(1/2)at2)2)/t2) = Vi

the thing I am frustrated atm is that I am supposed to integrate theta into the equation but I cannot find a way to do this. it seems like the only varying variable would be dx, but now that i look at it again t should be a varying variable as well? and dy? so now it's more of a mess than an equation.

would love help, this has been giving me a headache for a while.

*edit: if it helps i calculated that a projectile i nthe projectile launcher is in there for only .224s.
 
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ok after some more analysis i figured out the velocity of the x component all the time (6.84m/s). now having ViX i need to derive a formula so i can use the time from the dy axis and plug it into the dx=vixt

somewhat like this

dy = viyt + .5at2
dx = vixt

Viy = tan theta vix (i am given vix and theta)
 
ok i think i got it

solve for Dx

dy = (tan theta vix)(dx/vix) - (g/2)(dx/vix)2
 
tell me projectile motion equationsin 3d
 
Hints:

1. The velocity in the x direction is constant. So if you know the time of flight, you can determine the distance as a function of the x component of initial velocity.

2. You have two unknowns in the above. They are initial velocity and time.

3. Come up with another equation that will have both unknowns present. To do this, work with the y directon.
 

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