How can we optimize water consumption for cooling steel in industrial processes?

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The discussion revolves around optimizing water consumption for cooling steel in industrial processes, specifically focusing on the effects of increasing water pressure and flow rates on cooling efficiency. Participants explore various methods and considerations related to the cooling system used for a long steel bar being cooled from high temperatures.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the cooling process involving a long steel bar passing through hollow castings that shower water onto it, suggesting that the method of cooling may limit heat transfer efficiency.
  • Another participant questions the effectiveness of increasing water pressure, suggesting that it may not reduce water consumption and could lead to increased flow instead.
  • Some participants propose increasing water flow as a potential solution, although this would contradict the goal of reducing water consumption.
  • There is a suggestion to recirculate water to minimize consumption, although the specifics of implementing such a system are unclear to participants.
  • Redesigning the hollow castings to enhance water contact time with the steel is proposed as a way to improve cooling efficiency and potentially reduce water usage, but participants express uncertainty about how to achieve this.
  • Concerns are raised about the heat transfer bottleneck being related to the rollers' contact with the steel rather than the water itself.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the impact of increasing water pressure on consumption and cooling efficiency. While some agree that increasing pressure may not help, there is no consensus on the best approach to optimize water usage in the cooling process.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in their understanding of the water supply system and the specific design of the cooling apparatus, which affects their ability to provide definitive solutions.

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Individuals interested in industrial cooling processes, mechanical engineering, and water resource management may find this discussion relevant.

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Consider that you are cooling a mass of steel from 1,000 °C to 920 °C. To accomplish this a water flow of 2,000 liters/min is required, and the water outlet temperature increases 10 °C. The water pressure at the inlet is 5 kg/cm2.

Now suppose that you increase 30% the water pressure by means of a booster pump.

Is this going to result in less water consumption for the same drop in the temperature of the steel?
 
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How is the steel being cooled by the water?
 
This sounds sort of like homework, but it is pretty vague. It can't really be answered without more information about the cooling/control method.
 
This thread is not homework. Sorry for the delay in answering.

The steel bar is very long because of the rolling; and has a round cross section. To cool it the bar
travels across a set of hollow castings placed one after the other. The castings have water chambers,
provided with many holes so that the water fills the chambers, and with the water pressure a shower
takes place, with water getting in contact with the steel, in such a way that the steel bar is cooled.
 
That does help; So this is a real-world situation.

It appears to me that the primary limiting factor is going to be the heat transfer between the rollers and the product; a 10C rise in water temperature is not much considering just how hot the steel is, so the method of cooling is keeping heat from easily getting to the water.

Now that isn't to say you can't impact it by changing the water parameters, but changing the pressure is an odd parameter to pick. It seems like you meant increasing the flow by increasing the pressure, but then you asked if it would reduce water consumption, which seems like a contradiction. And even then, "consumption" is an odd choice of words here, as I would think the water is being re-circulated to make the actual "consumption" very small. So again, some more details about the water supply system would be useful.

Just an outside guess about the configuration, but if you are using once-through water from a tap and you use a pump to boost the pressure on a system with no controls, you will see an increase in flow, an almost proportional decrease in delta-T and a very small decrease in the temperature of the steel.
 
OK Russ. Now you are helping me to clarify things. You wrote: "...but changing the pressure is an odd parameter to pick..." I agree 100% with this point. Increasing pressure won´t help. So I see 3 options:
1) Increase water flow. But this goes in the opposite way; will increase water consumption.
2) Find a way to recirculate the water. At this moment I don´t know how.
3) Redesign the hollow castings in such a way that water could be in contact with steel for a greater time and so take more heat away, and then reducing water consumption. Again, at this point I don´t know how to accomplish this.
 
capterdi said:
2) Find a way to recirculate the water. At this moment I don´t know how.
That requires a pump, a cooling tower and a mechanical engineer to design it for you. It isn't something that can be done here.
3) Redesign the hollow castings in such a way that water could be in contact with steel for a greater time and so take more heat away, and then reducing water consumption. Again, at this point I don´t know how to accomplish this.
If you just reduce the water flow by closing a valve partway, the delta-T will go up proportionally without affecting the cooling capability much.

And I don't think the water is the heat transfer bottleneck: its the way the rollers touch the steel that limits heat flow. A mechanical or process engineer would probably be needed. If you are spending a lot of money dumping water down a drain, it is probably worthwhile to put dome serious effort into the investigation.
 

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