How can we parameterize the cycloid traced by a rolling circle?

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The discussion focuses on the parameterization of a cycloid traced by a rolling circle. Participants explore the mathematical formulation and reasoning behind the cycloid's properties, including the relationship between the angle of rotation and the distance traveled by the center of the circle.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the cycloid can be parametrized by the equation $$\gamma (t)=a(t-\sin t, 1-\cos t)$$ and seek to demonstrate this.
  • One participant suggests starting with the center of the circle given by $$C(t)=a\langle t,1 \rangle$$ and questions the reasoning behind the first coordinate being equal to $at$.
  • Another participant explains that as $t$ increases from $0$ to $2\pi$, the circle rolls one complete revolution, moving forward a distance equal to its circumference.
  • There is a discussion about whether the relationship between the distance moved and the circumference holds only for $t$ increasing from $0$ to $2\pi$ or for any increase of $2\pi$ in $t$.
  • One participant asserts that for any increase of $t$ by $2\pi$, the $x$-coordinate of the center increases by $2\pi a$ and draws an analogy to a car tire's movement.
  • Another participant confirms that the relationship between the arc length and the $x$-coordinate of the circle's center can be expressed as $$\Delta x=a\Delta t$$.
  • A participant presents a formal justification for the $x$-coordinate being equal to the arc length, detailing the movement of a point on the circumference of the circle and deriving the parameterization of the cycloid.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their formulation and seeks feedback on potential improvements.
  • Several participants agree that the presented formulation looks good.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the parameterization of the cycloid and the reasoning behind the relationships discussed, though there are moments of clarification and questioning regarding specific details and justifications.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the relationship between angle and distance may not be fully explored, and the discussion includes various perspectives on the parameterization process.

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Hey! :o

A cycloid is a flat curve that is traced by point of the rim of a circle while the circle rolls without slippage on the line. Show that if the line is the axis $x$ and the circle has radius $a>0$, then the cycloid can be parametrized by $$\gamma (t)=a(t-\sin t, 1-\cos t)$$

Could you give me some hints how we could show that?
 
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Can you begin by showing the center of the circle $C$ can be given by:

$$C(t)=a\langle t,1 \rangle$$
 
MarkFL said:
Can you begin by showing the center of the circle $C$ can be given by:

$$C(t)=a\langle t,1 \rangle$$

Why is the first coordinate equal to $at$ ?
 
mathmari said:
Why is the first coordinate equal to $at$ ?

Suppose $t$ has increased from $0$ to $2\pi$ so that the circle has rolled one complete revolution. The circle will have moved forward a distance equal to its circumference. :D
 
MarkFL said:
Suppose $t$ has increased from $0$ to $2\pi$ so that the circle has rolled one complete revolution. The circle will have moved forward a distance equal to its circumference. :D

So, the distance that the circle has moved forwad is equal to the circumference? Or does this stand only at the case where $t$ has increased from $0$ to $2\pi$ ?
 
mathmari said:
So, the distance that the circle has moved forwad is equal to the circumference? Or does this stand only at the case where $t$ has increased from $0$ to $2\pi$ ?

Any time $t$ increases by $2\pi$, then the $x$-coordinate of the center of the circle will increase by $2\pi a$. Think of an automobile, where we have marked one of the tires with chalk where it touches the pavement. If the car moves forward, then it will have to move forward a distance equal to the circumference of the tire in order for the mark to return to the pavement.
 
MarkFL said:
Any time $t$ increases by $2\pi$, then the $x$-coordinate of the center of the circle will increase by $2\pi a$. Think of an automobile, where we have marked one of the tires with chalk where it touches the pavement. If the car moves forward, then it will have to move forward a distance equal to the circumference of the tire in order for the mark to return to the pavement.

When we have for example that $t$ has increased by an angle, say $r$, it stands that the $x$-coordinate of the center of the circle will be $ra$. Is this correct?
 
Yes, this is a result of the arc-length formula for a circular arc:

$$s=r\theta$$

or in our case (if $x$ is the $x$-coordinate of the circle's center):

$$\Delta x=a\Delta t$$
 
MarkFL said:
Yes, this is a result of the arc-length formula for a circular arc:

$$s=r\theta$$

or in our case (if $x$ is the $x$-coordinate of the circle's center):

$$\Delta x=a\Delta t$$

Ahaa... Ok... And how could we justify formally that the $x$-coordinate of the circle's center is equal to the arclength?
 
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Is it as follows?

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Let $P$ a point of the circumference of the circle. We suppose that the point $P$ starts from the point $P_0$, i.e., from the coordinate origin. If the circle rotates by angle $t$, the point that is on the $x$-axis is $Q=(x_1, 0)$ and the point $P$ moves to the position $P(x,y)$. If we unroll the circle we see that $x_1$ is equal to the arc length $PQ$, i.e., $x_1=at$.

We have $$x=P_0S=P_0Q-SQ=x_1-a\cos \left (\phi -\frac{\pi}{2}\right )=a\phi -a\sin \phi =a(\phi -\sin \phi ) \\ y=PS=PR+RS=a\sin \left (\phi -\frac{\pi}{2}\right )+a=-a\cos \phi +a=a(1-\cos \phi )$$

So the cycloid can be parametrized by $$\gamma (t)=a(t-\sin t, 1-\cos t)$$

Is everything correct? Could I improve something at the formulation? (Wondering)
 

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Looks good to me. :)
 
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MarkFL said:
Looks good to me. :)

Ok... Thanks a lot! (Mmm)
 

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