How Can We Understand the Hilbert Space in Quantum Field Theory?

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The discussion centers on understanding the properties of the Hilbert space in quantum field theory (QFT), including the construction of a basis, particle interpretation, and the implications of Poincaré invariance. Participants explore theoretical aspects, mathematical formulations, and challenges related to the representation of states in QFT.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the Hilbert space in QFT can be labeled by Poincaré invariance and its associated Noether charges, proposing a construction of states based on these labels.
  • Another participant notes that the Hilbert space of QFT is a unitary representation of the Poincaré group, with one-particle states forming a subspace corresponding to irreducible representations.
  • There is a question about how to represent an arbitrary number of particles in the Hilbert space, with some suggesting it may involve a direct sum of n-particle spaces or tensor products.
  • One participant mentions Haag's theorem, indicating that interactions complicate the description of the Hilbert space, suggesting it cannot simply be a Fock space.
  • Another participant discusses the infrared problem in QED, highlighting that the Fock space of free particles does not adequately represent asymptotically free states in the context of interactions.
  • Several references are provided for further reading, including works by Weinberg, Bloch and Nordsieck, and Kulish and Faddeev, which address various aspects of the Hilbert space in QFT.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the Hilbert space in QFT, particularly regarding the implications of interactions and the representation of states. There is no consensus on how to fully describe the Hilbert space, especially in the presence of interactions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in understanding the mathematical structure of the Hilbert space, particularly in relation to interactions and the infrared problem, which remains unresolved in the literature.

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Hi everyone. Many texts when describing QFT start immediately discussing about free field theories, Fock spaces etc.. I want to understand general properties of the Hilbert space, and how to find a basis of it, and how to find a particle interpretation. I know there are very mathematical formulations with test functions etc.. but I'm not interested in that.

I'll tell you my guess. In a QFT we must have Poincare' invariance. So, from it we can have its noether charges, and use them to label the Hilbert space with their eigensates. How many commuting objects can we create? [itex]P_{\mu}[/itex], [itex]P^2[/itex],[itex]W^2[/itex], [itex]W_3[/itex], and plus some commuting [itex]Q_a[/itex] of an internal symmetry. [itex]W_{\mu}[/itex] is [itex]W_{\mu}=\frac{1}{2}\epsilon_{\mu\nu\rho\sigma}M^{\nu\rho}P^{\sigma}[/itex] So, I could create

[itex]P^{2}|m^{2},p_{\mu},q_{a},s,\xi_{s}>=m^{2}|m^{2},p_{\mu},q_{a},s,\xi_{s}>[/itex]
[itex]P_{\mu}|m^{2},p_{\mu},q_{a},s,\xi_{s}>=p_{\mu}|m^{2},p_{\mu},q_{a},s,\xi_{s}>[/itex]
[itex]W^{2}|m^{2},p_{\mu},q_{a},s,\xi_{s}>=-m^{2}s\left(s+1\right)|m^{2},p_{\mu},q_{a},s,\xi_{s}>[/itex]
[itex]W_{3}|m^{2},p_{\mu},q_{a},s,\xi_{s}>=\xi_{s}|m^{2},p_{\mu},q_{a},s,\xi_{s}>[/itex]
[itex]Q_{a}|m^{2},p_{\mu},q_{a},s,\xi_{s}>=q_{a}|m^{2},p_{\mu},q_{a},s,\xi_{s}>[/itex]

where [itex]m^2[/itex] is real non negative (if it is null i should consider helicity), [itex]p_{\mu}[/itex] is any, [itex]s=0,1,2..[/itex] and [itex]\xi_{s}=-s,..s[/itex].

So I can express a generic element of the Hilbert space as linear combination of [itex]|m^{2},p_{\mu},q_{a},s,\xi_{s}>[/itex] right?
[itex]|m^{2},p_{\mu},q_{a},s,\xi_{s}>[/itex] could be interpreted as a particle state if it is onshell.
Is there a way to build a commuting number operator whose eigenvalues identify which particle we are considering? The vacuum would be when the number operator is zero.

Then, when we impose a certain Lagrangian, its equation of motion will give some contraints on the states, right?

Any suggestions or text references explicitly dealing with what said are welcome.
Thank you very much.
 
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anthony2005 said:
[...] text references explicitly dealing with what said are welcome.
Weinberg vol-1 is the obvious suggestion for a reference.
 
Yeah, thanks for the reply, but that's a big book. Where does it talk about the general properties of the Hilbert space?

By the way, looking around I found written that the Hilbert space of QFT is a unitary representation of the Poincarè group. The one particle states form a subspace of the whole Hilbert space and corresponds to an irreducible unitary rep of Poincarè, and it's made of states [itex]\phi(x)|0>[/itex] (or distributions if you like) where [itex]|0>[/itex] is the vacuum. So I know how to create a basis for this space via Wigner's method. But QFT have arbitrary number of particles. So how would that reducible Poincarè rep look like? A direct sum of [itex]n[/itex] particle spaces (and is this an [itex]n[/itex] times tensor product of a 1-particle space?) Even with interaction?

Thanks
 
I thought Lie groups are represented by operators on the Hilbert space, not the Hilbert space itself.
 
anthony2005 said:
Yeah, thanks for the reply, but that's a big book. Where does it talk about the general properties of the Hilbert space?
All separable Hilbert spaces are equivalent; so there is very little to be said generally. The differences are in the representations. Chapter 5 constructs the relevant reps.
anthony2005 said:
By the way, looking around I found written that the Hilbert space of QFT is a unitary representation of the Poincarè group. The one particle states form a subspace of the whole Hilbert space and corresponds to an irreducible unitary rep of Poincarè, and it's made of states [itex]\phi(x)|0>[/itex] (or distributions if you like) where [itex]|0>[/itex] is the vacuum. So I know how to create a basis for this space via Wigner's method. But QFT have arbitrary number of particles. So how would that reducible Poincarè rep look like? A direct sum of [itex]n[/itex] particle spaces (and is this an [itex]n[/itex] times tensor product of a 1-particle space?) Even with interaction?
Without interactions, you get the Fock space constructed from the representation space of an irreducible rep. With interactions, you get something nobody knows so far how to describe it. There is only Haag's theorem, which says that it cannot be a Fock space. But all known positively is that, restricted to bounded regions, it is a Fock space. The limit to the unbounded case is mathematically ill-understood and constitutes the infrared problem.
 
A bit more one understands about the Hilbert space of QFT, at least in QED (and in the perturbative sense of course). The infrared problem shows indeed that the Fock space of free particles is not the correct space to represent asymptotically free states of QED in the (perturbative) S-matrix theory.

The traditional way to cure this problem is pretty old and goes back to

F. Bloch and A. Nordsieck. Note on the radiation field of the electron. Phys. Rev., 52:54–59, 1937.
http://link.aps.org/doi/10.1103/PhysRev.52.54

The idea to cure th IR problem is that in any reaction of charged particles, soft photons are easily created due to the masslessness of photons. The energy resolution of any detector used to measure the corresponding cross section of such a reaction is always finite, and thus one cannot distinguish whether you really detect only the exclusive collision process in question or whether there is one or more additional soft photon(s) emitted with a (total) energy smaller than the detector's energy resolution.

This is nicely described in modern terms, using Feynman diagrams, e.g., in Weinberg, Quantum Theory of Fields, Vol. 1

Another more modern approach is to more carefully determine the asymptotic states of such scattering events. That's already apparent in non-relativistic scattering theory of charged particles. Since the photon is massless, the electrostatic force (Coulomb force) is long ranged. The potential only falls with the inverse distance, and thus standard asymptotic theory, assuming freely streaming particles, represented by plane waves (momentum eigen states) as asymptotic states, is not applicable to that case. The way out here is very simple since one can solve the two-body Coulomb problem in non-relativistic quantum theory exactly (for both the bound-state problem as well as Coulomb scattering).

Unfortunately one cannot solve more complicated problems exactly, but there's an alternative approach, using modified asymptotic states, taking into account the relevant long-range part of the Coulomb interaction in the asymptotic region. This also has the advantage that one can extend this technique to the full QED case. As it turns out the correct asymptotic states for the photons is not the Fock space of the non-interacting theory but coherent states of an indefinite photon number, which is not a Fock space. For the charged particles it's the modified asymptotic states, taking into account the long-range Coulomb interaction.

This is nicely described in

P. P. Kulish and L. D. Faddeev, Theoretical and Mathematical Physics
Volume 4, Number 2, 745-757, DOI: 10.1007/BF01066485

and

Mark S. Swanson, Phys. Rev. D 25, 2086–2102 (1982),
http://link.aps.org/doi/10.1103/PhysRevD.25.2086
 
vanhees71 said:
This is nicely described in

P. P. Kulish and L. D. Faddeev, Theoretical and Mathematical Physics
Volume 4, Number 2, 745-757, DOI: 10.1007/BF01066485

and

Mark S. Swanson, Phys. Rev. D 25, 2086–2102 (1982),
http://link.aps.org/doi/10.1103/PhysRevD.25.2086

I didn't know the second paper (thanks!); it gives in the introduction a nice summary of what has been accomplished.
 

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