How Can We Understand Wave-Particle Duality in Water Waves?

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This discussion centers on the understanding of wave-particle duality specifically in the context of water waves and mechanical waves. Participants clarify that water waves are patterns of displacement of particles, not the particles themselves, and emphasize the usefulness of wave descriptions to capture collective behaviors. The conversation also touches on the distinction between classical waves and quantum mechanics, highlighting the role of phonons as energy packets in physical vibrations. The discussion concludes that while particles form the basis of matter, the wave description is essential for practical applications in science and engineering.

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hkyriazi said:
Ahmad, would you be satisfied with a justification for the use of wave equations that took the approach, "water wave A consists of X molecules with average velocity vA1 and mass density pA1 at position dxA1dyA1dzA1 (and other velocities for all the other infinitesimal volumes of the wave) while wave B contains Y molecules with average velocity vB1 at position dxB1dyB1dzB1 etc. and whose maximum peak will intersect wave A's maximum peak at time t etc., and since no two molecules can occupy the same space they must displace each other (superpose), but since we do not have the capacity to know each and every pair of interacting molecules' exact positions and collision angles, orientations, strength of van der Waals' forces and ionic interactions (for the dipolar water molecules) etc. that impart some elasticity and variable density to the water, we shall treat the liquid medium as an incompressible, continuous medium etc., and this has been found empirically to provide an accurate description of the macroscopic behavior of intersecting waves"?

I don't mean to imply that this is exactly what a particle description would look like, but just sort of what you had in mind.

Yes, precisely. Thank you.
 

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