How can you determine the normal force?

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The discussion revolves around determining the normal force acting on a block moving down an inclined plane at a constant velocity. The original poster outlines the forces involved, including the weight of the block and its components, and poses several questions related to calculating the coefficient of sliding friction.

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  • Participants discuss the necessary forces to calculate the coefficient of sliding friction, specifically the frictional force and normal force. Questions are raised about the data required to determine these forces, including the weight of the block and the angle of the incline. There is also mention of using trigonometric functions in the calculations, particularly the cosine of the angle.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their initial thoughts and attempts to understand the problem. Some express uncertainty about the calculations and seek guidance, while others acknowledge their shared inexperience in physics. There is no explicit consensus, but a collaborative atmosphere is evident as participants offer moral support.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment that requires them to explore various aspects of the problem without providing complete solutions. The original poster indicates a lack of familiarity with the concepts, which may impact their ability to engage with the material fully.

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Homework Statement


The diagram below shows the forces acting on a block moving at a constant velocity down an inclined plane. The weight of the block, Fw, can be resoled into two components, one parallel to the surface of the plane, Fll, and one perpendicular to the surface of the plane, F_l_. If you know the weight of the block and the value of angle θ when the block moves at constant velocity, you can calculate the coefficient of sliding friction. You can also use a computer to do the calculations for you.

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1. What are the two forces the values of which must be known before the coefficient of sliding friction can be calculated?

2. What data must you have in order to determine these two forces?

3. How can you determine the normal force?

4. How can you determine the force of friction?

5. What equation is used to calculate the coefficient of sliding friction?

6. In the space below, draw a flowchart to calculate the coefficient of sliding friction.

7. If you have access to a computer, follow your flowchart and write a computer program to calculate the coefficient of sliding friction. The measure of angle θ must be expressed in radians. Let Ff represent the force of friction, and FN represent the normal force. Attach a printout of your program to this page.

8. Choose a weight between 25 N and 74 N and an angle θ between 15° and 30°. Enter these data and run your program. Attach a printout of your results to this page.

9. After you have run several different values for θ, try to determine a relationship between the coefficient of friction and trig functions of angle θ.



Homework Equations


N/A as of now. I first have to figure out the first few before I get into any sort of math.


The Attempt at a Solution



1. Frictional Force (Ff)and Normal Force (FN)

2. The weight of the box, gravity, and the degree of θ.

3. Multiply the mass by negative gravity as in FN.
My teacher said something about the cosine of θ, but I don't really know how to implement this, being that this is the first day that we are going over vectors and she bombarded us with this.

4. The force of friction can be determined by normal force as in Ff=μ* FN

5. Ff=μ* FN or μ=Ff/FN

6. I have no idea. My teacher just said to put our problem solving steps down for this one. First I need some problem solving steps...

7. She said to use Microsoft Excel for this purpose. As soon as I figure out the first five, this shouldn't be too hard. Any guidance would help, of course.

8. ?

9. ?


 
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Hmmmmm. Ill try to work it out, I am also just beginning physics. Ill tell you what I got.
 
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barato said:
Ill help you, I pmed you the answer :)

Hmm, all of your answers seem flawed. I appreciate the help, but you and I are in the same boat. We are "n00bz" as the online community says, and thus we can not offer much help to one another except in the form of moral support.
 

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