How can you find the relative extrema of |1+\sqrt[3]{x}|?

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The discussion revolves around finding the relative extrema of the function |1 + √[3]{x}|. Participants explore methods for determining these extrema, including the use of derivatives and piecewise function analysis. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and calculus concepts related to differentiability and critical points.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a piecewise definition of the function and calculates the first derivative, suggesting a relative extremum at x=0 and questioning the status of x=-1.
  • Another participant points out that the derivative at x=0 is infinite, indicating a potential confusion regarding the nature of extrema at that point.
  • A different participant questions whether f'(x)=0 indicates a relative minimum at x=-1, referencing a graphing calculator's output while expressing uncertainty about calculus methods to confirm this.
  • Another participant asserts that f(x) is not differentiable at x=-1, highlighting the differing right-hand and left-hand derivatives, and claims that x=-1 is a relative extremum due to the sharp corner.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the extrema at x=-1, with some asserting it is a relative minimum while others emphasize the lack of differentiability at that point. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the classification of extrema at x=-1.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions about differentiability at x=-1 and the interpretation of the derivative at x=0. The piecewise nature of the function introduces complexity in determining relative extrema.

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Use any method to find the relative extrema of [tex]|1+\sqrt[3]{x}|[/tex].
I get the following [tex]|1+\sqrt[3]{x}| = \left\{\begin{array}{cc} 1+\sqrt[3]{x}, & \mbox{if} x >-1 \\ -1-\sqrt[3]{x}, & \mbox{if} x<-1\end{array}\right[/tex]
Using the first derivative test, I get [tex]f'(x) = \frac{1}{3x^{2/3}} \mbox{and} -\frac{1}{3x^{2/3}}[/tex]. These suggest that there is a relative extremum at x=0 but not at x=-1, actually it is an inflection point at x=0. What is next? Maybe I am confused about absolute values! I think I have the function piece wise ok.Please help. Thanks.
 
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At x=0, the derivative is infinite. I am confused about what you are confused about.
 
Should not f'(x) =0 show a relative minimum at x=-1, i.e., if f(x) is differentiable at x=-1. According to my graphing calculator there is a relative minimum at x=-1. But I do not know to find the relative minimum at x=-1 by calculus? Thanks.
 
f(x) is not differentiable at x=-1.

That can be seen by the different values the right-hand derivative and left-hand derivative gets there.

Thus, x=-1 is a sharp corner, and it is, indeed, a relative extremum.
 

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