How Can You Prove Number Theory Relationships Using Euclidean Algorithm?

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The discussion revolves around proving relationships in number theory using the Euclidean algorithm. Participants are exploring two main problems: one involving the greatest common divisor (gcd) of integers and the other concerning the representation of integers in a base system.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of linear combinations and the implications of the Euclidean algorithm in proving gcd relationships. There are attempts to manipulate expressions involving integers a and b to establish connections between their sums and products. In the second problem, there is mention of the division algorithm and the counting principle related to base systems.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints and suggestions for both problems, indicating progress in understanding the second problem. However, there is still uncertainty regarding the first problem, particularly in establishing the necessary conditions for the gcd relationships.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the amount of direct assistance they can provide. There is also a discussion about the definitions and interpretations of operators used in the problems.

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1. Prove (a,b)=1 iff (a+b, ab)=1

I'm guessing the main tools I have here are xa+yb=1 and the lemma behind the Euclidean algorithm: if a=bq+r, (a,b)=(b,r). I figure I need to do lots of manipulation to build up a more complicated equality, but I can't make it quite work. Any suggestions?

2. Suppose x an integer such that 0<x<n^3. Show there exist a_0, a_1, a_2 in {0,1,...,n-1} such that x=a_0+a_1n+a_2n^2

I don't even know where to start this one.
 
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For the second one, you mean ...+ a_2 n^2, right? If so, start with the division algorithm x=qn^2+r.
 
Yes, that's what I meant; I've changed it now. Thanks for your help!
 
1) (a+b,ab)=1 => (a,b)=1 can be done the way you have planned, a linear combination of a+b and ab can be turned into a linear combination of a and b. Show what you've tried!

For the other direction, if a prime p divides (a+b,ab) what else can you say it divides?

Did you manage 2)? If not where has StatusX's hint led you?
 
Since a,b are assumed to be integers, isn't x(a+b)+yab=(x+yb)a+xb an integer combination? My trouble is the other direction, starting from (a,b)=1. I don't think I see where your question is headed there.

The second problem followed pretty quickly after StatusX's hint.
 
All right, I think I follow your question a bit. If a prime divides (a+b,ab) then it divides a+b, ab, and at least one of a or b. What else do I need?
 
I don't know if this is what shmoe meant, but what about a^2 and b^2?
 
the 2nd one is simple...its based on the counting principle/grouping and
is about "base numbers" the thing you should think of is how do we create base-number systems ie. binary,tertiary,octal, decimal,hex...how is each one created. what makes a binary number binary and why does the entire binary set contian just the alphabet {0,1}

for the first one is (,) an unknown operator or does it stand for remainder?
 
I have the second one now. In the first one, the operator is greatest common divisor.
 
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randommacuser said:
All right, I think I follow your question a bit. If a prime divides (a+b,ab) then it divides a+b, ab, and at least one of a or b. What else do I need?

You're a small step away, can you show p will divide *both* a and b from what you have?
 

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