How Can You Solve Antiderivatives for Unknown Functions in Homework Problems?

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This discussion focuses on solving antiderivatives for unknown functions in calculus homework problems. The participants analyze two specific problems, utilizing integration techniques and the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus. Key insights include the simplification of integrals using properties of constants and the relationship between a function and its derivative. The final conclusion for g(15) is established as 25, derived from the area under the derivative graph and initial conditions provided.

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Homework Statement


Q1.
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Q2.
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I really don't know how to go about either of the two.
In the second one I know that g(0)=100, g'(0)=-10 and g'(15)=0, but have no idea how you would be able to use these go get g(15)

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Q1 Simplify the integral using all those basic rules. The integral of a constant times a function is equal to a constant times the integral of the function. And the sum of the integrals is equal to the integral of the sum.
<br /> $ \int_{-1}^{1}(3f(x)-g(x))dx = 3\int_{-1}^{1}f(x) dx - \int_{-1}^{1} g(x) dx<br /> = 6-\int_{-1}^{1} g(x)\\6-\int_{-1}^{1} g(x) = 12\\<br /> \int_{-1}^{1} g(x) = -6\\ $
 
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whoops! I posted the wrong question. Thanks anyway for the help!

Here's the one I was supposed to post..

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let $ u=x^2,\frac{du}{dx}=2x $\\<br /> $ xdx =\frac{1}{2}du $\\<br /> when x =0, u=0\\<br /> when x =2, u=4\\<br /> <br /> $ \int_0^2 xg(x^2)dx=\int_0^4 \frac{1}{2} g(u) du = \frac{1}{2}*16=8$
 
Thanks a lot of sorting that one out! :approve:

Now for that dreaded antidiv. graph..
 
I'll take a guess and say that the answer is 25, the curved section of the graph is basically a distraction. You can find the total change between 0 and 15 by finding the area under the derivative graph for this interval. It's equal to -75. As g(0) = 100 it follows that g(15) = 100 -75 =25.
 
gunstar-red said:
I'll take a guess and say that the answer is 25, the curved section of the graph is basically a distraction. You can find the total change between 0 and 15 by finding the area under the derivative graph for this interval. It's equal to -75. As g(0) = 100 it follows that g(15) = 100 -75 =25.

hmmm, I'm really clueless, but the theory behind your answer seems like the most logical/correct understanding I have heard so far.
 
As gunstar-red said, the "looping" part at the end is irrelevant since you are only asked to go up to x= 15. The graph before that is a straight line from (0, -10) to (15, 0). Although it is harder than what he suggested, you can fairly easily write out the equation for g'(x) and integrate to find g(x).
 
I still get 25 doing it your way HallsofIvy.
g'(x)=2/3x-10
g(x)=x^3/3-10x+c
g(0)=100
.:100=c
g(x)=x^3/3-10x+100
g(15)=75-150+100=25

I think this is because they are in essence the same process.

g'(x)=f(x)
g(x)=F(x)+c when x = 0, g(0)=100
100=F(0)+c
c=100-F(0)
so g(x)=F(x) - F(0) +100
and g(15) =F(15) - F(0) +100
$ g(15) = \int_0^{15} g&#039;(x) dx +100 = -75 +100 = 25$
 
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Yes, of course, you get the same thing! And, yes, they are basically the same.
 
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HallsofIvy, your method makes a lot more sense to me solely because there's more math and less theory!
 

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