How Can You Solve Challenging Mechanics Problems?

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The discussion revolves around challenging mechanics problems, specifically focusing on a scenario involving a boy swimming in a current and the calculations related to his velocity and time to reach a buoy. Participants are exploring concepts related to vectors, relative motion, and the effects of currents on swimming speed.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the initial attempts at solving the problem, including calculations of time and velocity. Questions arise regarding the accuracy of the swimming speed and the implications of the current on the boy's trajectory.

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Some participants have shared their calculations and reasoning, while others are questioning the assumptions made about swimming speed and direction. There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants note that the scenario is for revision rather than formal homework, which influences the nature of the discussion. There are reminders about the requirement to show work and detail thoughts, which some participants are addressing.

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Can you help me with some of these questions? I can't do the second part of Q1!
 

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magicuniverse,

This is the second thread you've started where you haven't shown any work. Can I remind you that you are required to show the you have attempted any homework before posting as well as detailing any thoughts you have on your problem.

"I have no idea!" doesn't count as detailing your thoughts.
 
Well its not homework for a start. This is revision for an exam so by explaining/hinting at a method you arnt going to be put me at an unfair advantge.
 
magicuniverse said:
Well its not homework for a start. This is revision for an exam so by explaining/hinting at a method you arnt going to be put me at an unfair advantge.
Okay, so what have you done so far in question (1)?
 
I have worked out the time to be 120s with the use of a diagram and orking out resultsnt vectors. Tried doing the second part but got it wrong, my answer was massively out so I though that I must be doing it worng and wanted to know how.
 
magicuniverse said:
I have worked out the time to be 120s with the use of a diagram and orking out resultsnt vectors. Tried doing the second part but got it wrong, my answer was massively out so I though that I must be doing it worng and wanted to know how.
May i see your attempt?
 
Hootenanny said:
May i see your attempt?

Yer but you can't see my diagram as I can't get it on here.

Basically know that the currrent will drag the bo down, but the boy can swim upwards at 1m/s so if he can swim to the west at 3 m/s his velocity will be root(10) (from pythagorus) we then divide the distance 200m by root10. This comes out with 63.25s rather than the required 89.4s.
 
magicuniverse said:
Yer but you can't see my diagram as I can't get it on here.

Basically know that the currrent will drag the bo down, but the boy can swim upwards at 1m/s so if he can swim to the west at 3 m/s his velocity will be root(10) (from pythagorus) we then divide the distance 200m by root10. This comes out with 63.25s rather than the required 89.4s.
But surely if he swims at a speed of [itex]\sqrt{10}[/itex] m/s, that would mean that he is swimming at an angle of [itex]\tan^{-1}(1/3) \approx 18^o[/itex] above due west and would therefore miss the buoy?

In addition, the the boy's maximum speed relative to the water is 3 m/s.
 
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I figured that the current was pulling him down? Il have alook at it, thanks.
 
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magicuniverse said:
I figured that the current was pulling him down? Il have alook at it, thanks.
Note my second point above, the boy's total speed cannot exceed 3 m/s
 
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Thanks I have to got the answer to 200/root(5), your time is appretiated. Any help with question 2 would be appretiated now thanks.
 
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magicuniverse said:
Thanks I have to got the answer to 200/root(5), your time is appretiated.
Good, and no problem :smile:
magicuniverse said:
Any help with question 2 would be appretiated now thanks.
What have you attempted thus far?
 

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