How Close Is the Magnetic Flux Through a Coil to the Calculated Values?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the magnetic flux through a circular coil placed in the xy-plane, influenced by a long straight wire carrying a current. The user initially calculates the magnetic field from the circular loop using the formula for a circular loop's magnetic field, yielding a value of 2.01E-8 T. However, it is pointed out that the user needs to consider the magnetic field generated by the straight wire as well. To find the total magnetic flux, both magnetic fields must be combined before applying the flux formula. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly identifying and incorporating all relevant magnetic fields in the calculations.
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Homework Statement


A long straight wire on the z-axis carries a current of 3.0 A in the positive direction. A circular loop in the xy-plane, of radius 10 cm, carries a 5.0-A current, as shown. Point P, at the center of the loop, is 25 cm from the z-axis.

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A circular coil of four turns, 2 cm in diameter, is placed in the xy-plane with its center at P. The magnetic flux through the coil is closest to:

a)4.9 x 10-9 Wb
b)9.9 x 10-9 Wb
c)4.0 x 10-9 Wb
d)1.5 x 10-9 Wb
e)2.0 x 10-9 Wb

Homework Equations



B=\frac{\mu_{0}Ia^2}{2(x^2+a^2)^{3/2}} (on the axis of a circular loop)B=\frac{\mu_{0}NI}{2a} (at the center of N circular loops)\Phi=\intB*dA (magnetic flux)

The Attempt at a Solution



So I tried finding the magnetic flux of the loop first in the image given. First I needed the field of the loop:

Using the first formula, I used I = 5 A, x = .25 m, a = .01 m. My final answer resulted in : 2.01E-8 T

Then, I used the formula for magnetic flux, using 2.01E-8 T for B, and the area of this circle.

Area of circle: 2\pi*r^2, where r will be .01
2\pi*.01^2 = 6.28E-4

so

\Phi = 2.01E-8 * 6.28 E-4 = 1.26 E -11

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I figure that somehow, I needed the magnetic flux of the loop to figure out what the flux of the coil would be. Am I even approaching this correctly?
 
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ttiger2k7 said:

The Attempt at a Solution



So I tried finding the magnetic flux of the loop first in the image given. First I needed the field of the loop:

Using the first formula, I used I = 5 A, x = .25 m, a = .01 m. My final answer resulted in : 2.01E-8 T

You should put x=radius of the loop, a=0. Do you know what x and a represent? Consult your notes or book.

Where is the field due to the straight wire? You have to include that too.

After finding the total B at the centre, think about finding the flux.
 
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