The discussion centers on the conductivity of ionized air, particularly in the context of plasma cutters and related phenomena. Participants explore the behavior of ionized gases under electrical currents, the mechanisms of plasma generation, and the implications for applications like fluorescent lamps and lightning.
Participants express varying viewpoints on the specifics of conductivity in ionized air and the mechanisms involved in plasma generation. There is no clear consensus on the exact relationships between temperature, resistance, and the behavior of ionized gases.
Some assumptions about the behavior of gases under ionization and the specific conditions required for conductivity remain unaddressed. The discussion includes references to different applications and phenomena without resolving the complexities involved.
I think you refer to the one that splits Hydrogen molecules into atoms, so when the Hydrogen recombines the 104 Kcal/mole energy hits the work. It takes 400 Kcal to split Nitrogen molecule and 260 Kcal to split O2, the result would contain a lot of Nitrogen Oxides (think nitric acid).rocket100 said:So I've been reading about how plasma cutters work, and the way it ignites intrigued me and got me thinking. My question is, how conductive would a stream of ionized air created by a high voltage spark be? If you passed a high current, low voltage through the stream, would it be able to travel along it? Is there an equation that can relate air temperature to resistance?
Flourescent bulbs use a filament to emit electrons to ionize argon filling and mercury vapor. The voltage drops and the filament drops out of the heating circuit but filament stays hot by impact of ionized atoms. High voltage to initiate plasma isn't used often, except as microamp triggers.Charles Link said:You can run relatively high currents at low voltages through ionized gases. This is what your neon lamps are and also fluorescent tubes. In the case of the fluorescent tube, you also have a fluorescent coating to convert the UV (much of the arc emissions are UV) that is emitted from the plasma arc to visible light. In order to get the arc started, it requires high voltages, but once the arc is started, you can get high currents (1 amp or more) at low voltages (typically 20 volts or less). The resistance drops significantly in a plasma as the current increases. In an arc lamp circuit, it often requires a ballast resistor to stabilize the current or the current can increase to very large amounts because the resistance drops as the current increases. Additional item is air in its neutral state has very high electrical resistivity but if it is highly ionized it actually becomes quite conductive.