How Do Cardinal Number Exponents Distribute Over Multiplication?

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The discussion revolves around proving the equality of cardinal number exponents distributing over multiplication, specifically the expression (a x b)^{c} = (a^{c} x b^{c}), where a, b, and c are cardinal numbers. Participants are exploring the interpretation of these cardinal numbers as sets and the functions associated with them.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss defining functions from set C to sets A and B, and how to construct a function from the product set A x B to set C. There is an exploration of whether the functions involved are bijections and how to demonstrate this.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants attempting to clarify their understanding of the definitions and relationships between the functions. Some guidance has been provided regarding the construction of functions and the need for bijections, but confusion remains about the correct approach to defining these functions.

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Participants are grappling with the definitions of cardinal exponentiation and the implications of bijections in the context of set theory. There is a noted lack of clarity in the definitions being used, which may be contributing to the confusion in the discussion.

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Homework Statement



prove that (a x b)[tex]^{}c[/tex] = (a[tex]^{}c[/tex] x b[tex]^{}c[/tex] where a,b,c are any cardinal numbers

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i know that they should first be interpreted as sets A,B,C but what functions should I use.
 
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Hi saadsarfraz! :smile:

(use the X2 tag just above the Reply box, instead of tex :wink:)
saadsarfraz said:
prove that (a x b)[tex]^{}c[/tex] = (a[tex]^{}c[/tex] x b[tex]^{}c[/tex] where a,b,c are any cardinal numbers

AC is the set of functions from C to A …

so pick a typical function on one side of the equation and show how to define a corresponding function on the other side :wink:
 
Hi and thanks but I am still a bit confused so is this how i shld do it:

A^c is defined as f: C --> A and I also define B^c as g: C --> B and h can be defined as h: C --> A X B, and since assuming f and g are bijections h too is a bijection. Am I in the right direction?
 
saadsarfraz said:
A^c is defined as f: C --> A and I also define B^c as g: C --> B and h can be defined as h: C --> A X B, and since assuming f and g are bijections h too is a bijection. Am I in the right direction?

No, not at all …

AC is the set of all functions from C to A, not one function
 
i still don't know how to do it, can you please help me in this.
 
saadsarfraz said:
i still don't know how to do it, can you please help me in this.

Start:

Let f:A → C be a member of AC and g:B → C be a member of BC …​

and then construct a member h:AxB → C of (AxB)C using f and g :smile:
 
is h going to be like this h(a,b) = (f(a),g(b) next to show that this is an injection?
 
saadsarfraz said:
is h going to be like this h(a,b) = (f(a),g(b) next to show that this is an injection?

Hi saadsarfraz! :smile:

Yes, that's exactly right! :approve:

('cept you missed out a bracket! :wink:)

ok, now the other way round …

starting with an h, how do you define an f and g? :smile:
 
I don't know how to do define an f and g starting with an h?
 
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saadsarfraz said:
I don't know how to do define an f and g starting with an h?

Hint: if h:C→ AxB is a member of (AxB)C, then define the projections hA:C→ B and hB:C→ A :wink:
 
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h_a going to be (B^c) and h_b(c) = (A^c)
 
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saadsarfraz said:
h_a going to be (B^c) and h_b(c) = (A^c)

mmm :frown: … i suspect you've got it …

but what you've actually written makes no sense​
 

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