How Do Forces Distribute Among Blocks on a Frictionless Surface?

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The discussion revolves around the dynamics of three blocks on a frictionless surface, specifically analyzing the forces acting on each block as they accelerate due to an external push. The participants explore the relationships between the forces exerted by the blocks on each other and the net forces acting on them.

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on block A from the hand and the interactions between blocks A and B. Questions arise regarding the calculation of forces, particularly the horizontal force on block A due to block B and the net horizontal force on block B.

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Some participants have provided calculations for the forces, while others question the reasoning behind these calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the forces acting on the blocks, with no explicit consensus reached on the interpretations of net forces.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the blocks are of equal mass and that the surface is frictionless, which influences their calculations and reasoning about the forces involved.

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Three blocks, each of mass 8 kg are on a frictionless table. A hand pushes on the left most box (A) such that the three boxes accelerate in the positive horizontal direction as shown at a rate of a = 0.7 m/s2.

Here are the ones I got right:
1. What is the magnitude of the force on block A from the hand?
Answer: 16.9-Correct
2. What is the net horizontal force on block A ?
Answer:5.6-Correct

And now the ones I can't figure out:
3. What is the horizontal force on block A due to block B?
and
4. What is the net horizontal force on block B?

For number 3, I tried subtracting (0.7*3) from total force of 16.9 but that was incorrect. Not sure how to approach this one.
 
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mohabitar said:
Three blocks, each of mass 8 kg are on a frictionless table. A hand pushes on the left most box (A) such that the three boxes accelerate in the positive horizontal direction as shown at a rate of a = 0.7 m/s2.

Here are the ones I got right:
1. What is the magnitude of the force on block A from the hand?
Answer: 16.9-Correct16.8?[/color]
2. What is the net horizontal force on block A ?
Answer:5.6-Correct

And now the ones I can't figure out:
3. What is the horizontal force on block A due to block B?
and+
4. What is the net horizontal force on block B?

For number 3, I tried subtracting (0.7*3) from total force of 16.9 but that was incorrect. Not sure how to approach this one.
For #3,why 0.7*3? Is that a typo error? If the hand force on A is 16.8 N to the right, and the net force on A is 5.6 N to the right, then the force of B on A must be _____ to the ____.

For #4, F_net = ma. What is m and what is a? What is the direction of F_net?

Always draw free body diagrams.
 
Ok number 3 is -11.2

Number 4-wouldnt that answer be the same as the net force on block A? Why or why not? In this case fnet=ma would be f=8(0.7)=5.6, same as number 2. Whats wrong with this reasoning? Or would I have to also add to that the force coming from block A as well? The direction would be positive.
 
mohabitar said:
Ok number 3 is -11.2
that is correct, where the minus sign indicates that the force of B on A acts to the left.
Number 4-wouldnt that answer be the same as the net force on block A? Why or why not? In this case fnet=ma would be f=8(0.7)=5.6, same as number 2. Whats wrong with this reasoning?
Nothing, it is correct. But be sure to indicate its direction is to the right.
Or would I have to also add to that the force coming from block A as well? The direction would be positive.
There are two horizontal forces acting on B .One is from Block A, 11.2 N acting to the right (per Newton 3). the other is from Block C, which you can calculate if you were asked, by knowing that the NET force on B is 5.6 N to the right.
 
Wait so the answer to 4 is not just 5.6? So the net horizontal force on B would have to be the sum of the forces acting on it from the left and right. Since A is giving B a force of 11.2 N positive direction and C is also giving B a force in the negative direction, the answer could not be 5.6?
 
mohabitar said:
Wait so the answer to 4 is not just 5.6?
the answer to #4 IS 5.6 N to the right, using F_net=ma.
So the net horizontal force on B would have to be the sum of the forces acting on it from the left and right.
that is correct
Since A is giving B a force of 11.2 N positive direction and C is also giving B a force in the negative direction, the answer could not be 5.6?
Why not? 11.2 N to the right from A , and 5.6N to the left from C , so the net force is 11.2-5.6 = 5.6 N to the right. Convice yourself that the force of C on B is 5.6 N to the left, by looking at a free body diagram of C.
 

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