How Do I Balance This Chemical Equation?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around balancing a chemical equation involving the reaction between magnesium nitrate and sodium phosphate to produce magnesium phosphate. Participants explore the calculations related to the amounts of reactants and the need to balance the equation, while also addressing potential issues with the provided data.

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  • Homework-related
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the moles of Mg(NO3)2 and Na3PO4 based on their densities and volumes, arriving at a ratio of approximately 5:1.
  • Another participant questions the validity of the density values provided, suggesting they may not be correct and that the numbers do not make sense in the context of the reaction.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of the reaction being a double exchange reaction, with emphasis on the ions present before the reaction and the products formed.
  • Participants express uncertainty about how to identify the missing products in the balanced equation and whether they can simply add them to balance it.
  • One participant inquires about systematic methods for determining compound formulas, particularly for salts, while another admits they have not learned this yet and seeks guidance on how to proceed.
  • Concerns are raised about whether the provided densities are indeed densities or amounts of substance dissolved per liter of solution, indicating potential confusion in the data interpretation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct approach to balance the equation or the validity of the provided data. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain regarding the calculations and the identification of products.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential limitations in the provided data, including the interpretation of density values and the assumptions made about the reactants and products involved in the reaction.

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dont know why all the index numbers came above the letters in my post but they are meant to be below.

250ml of Mg(NO_{3})_{2} with a density of 45g/L are mixed with 75 ml Na_{3}PO_{4} with a density of 30g/l.
what is the mass of the product Mg_{3}(PO_{4})_{2}

what i did was, using the densities, found out the masses of the molecules and then using the masses found out the amount of given mol's of each.
what i get is

0.071 mol Mg(NO_{3})_{2}
0.0137 mol Na_{3}PO_{4}

giving me a ratio of about 5:1

so

5Mg(NO_{3})_{2}+ Na_{3}PO_{4} ----> Mg_{3}(PO_{4})_{2}

problem comes here, i need to balance the equation to continue,
but i have missing elements?? what do i do?

once i have balanced the equation i can see how many mols of Mg_{3}(PO_{4})_{2} i have and then i fan work out its mass.

how do i add up the missing elements?
 
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Dell said:
dont know why all the index numbers came above the letters in my post but they are meant to be below.

Don't use tex for single character formatting, use [ sub][ /sub] and [ sup][ /sup] tags (no spaces after [).

250ml of Mg(NO_{3})_{2} with a density of 45g/L are mixed with 75 ml Na_{3}PO_{4} with a density of 30g/l.
what is the mass of the product Mg_{3}(PO_{4})_{2}

Something is wrong, these solutions will have a density of around 1000 g/L, numbers you have posted don't make sense. Are you sure you have copied numbers/question correctly?

5Mg(NO_{3})_{2}+ Na_{3}PO_{4} ----> Mg_{3}(PO_{4})_{2}

problem comes here, i need to balance the equation to continue,
but i have missing elements?? what do i do?

This is double exchange reaction with two reactants and two products. Think in terms of ions present in the solution before reaction. Precipitate removes some of these ions, others are left. Those left define other product.
 
Borek said:
This is double exchange reaction with two reactants and two products. Think in terms of ions present in the solution before reaction. Precipitate removes some of these ions, others are left. Those left define other product.


so my balanced equation will come to ----> Mg3(PO4)2 + something,, is this right,,
how can i know what the "something" is? can i just add in the missings ones to balance it? how can i know how to write them?
 
How did you know your reactants formulas were Mg(NO3)2 and Na3PO4?
 
that was given in the question
 
Do you know any systematic method for determining compound formula? Especially for salts the method is relatively simple and is based on the fact that salt molecule must be neutral.
 
havent learned that yet, is there no other way i can solve this? are my assumptions thus far correct??
could you tell me what the formula is meant to be so i can continue with the exercise
 
Even if I will give you the formula of the compound, your data so far (numbers given as densities) don't make sense.

Are you sure these are densities, and not amounts of substance dissolved per litre of the solution?

Can you name the substances mixed?
 

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