How Do I Calculate the Power Required to Rotate a Cable Drum?

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The discussion centers around calculating the power required to rotate a cable drum, specifically one with a diameter of 50 inches and a weight of approximately 3 tons. The drum is supported by a shaft mounted on bearings and needs to rotate at a constant speed of 30 RPM. Participants explore various factors affecting power requirements, including acceleration, friction, and changes in the drum's moment of inertia as cable is unwound.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the power required to rotate the drum could be zero if friction and external forces are discounted.
  • Another participant argues that power is necessary to accelerate the drum to 30 RPM and notes that the moment of gyration will change as cable is removed.
  • It is proposed that Newton's second law can be used to calculate the kinetic energy of the drum at 30 RPM to determine the power needed for acceleration.
  • A participant inquires about the impact of using needle bearings on the horsepower required to rotate the drum and seeks a method to quantify this reduction.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the initial power requirements, with some suggesting that power could be zero under certain conditions, while others emphasize the necessity of power for acceleration and friction considerations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact calculations and the influence of bearings on power requirements.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding assumptions about friction, external forces, and the changing mass and geometry of the drum as cable is unwound. The discussion does not reach a consensus on how to calculate the impact of bearings on power requirements.

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Hi All,

Cable drum, OD-50" weight abt 3 ton.. support by shaft horizontally.Both end of shaft is mounted on bearing. now i need to select electrical motor to rotate the this drum.
drum need to rotate constant 30 rpm speed..
please some one help to calculate the power required to rotate.
 
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Zero horsepower, discounting friction and external forces on the drum.
 
You will need some power in order to accelerate the drum up to 30rpm. Not only that, but as the cable is taken off the drum its moment of gyration will change.

You can determine the power required to accelerate the drum using Newtons second law to find the drums kinetic energy at 30rpm. In order to maintain that speed you will need to know how the drums mass and geometry changes as cable is removed and the friction inflicted on the drum.
 
Topher925 said:
You will need some power in order to accelerate the drum up to 30rpm. Not only that, but as the cable is taken off the drum its moment of gyration will change.

You can determine the power required to accelerate the drum using Newtons second law to find the drums kinetic energy at 30rpm. In order to maintain that speed you will need to know how the drums mass and geometry changes as cable is removed and the friction inflicted on the drum.

Hi,

Thanks for reply..
actually, drum rod is supported by both end needle bearings...because using bearing, HP required to rotate the drum get reduced or not...how much %..how to calculate that..
 

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