How Do I Correctly Integrate \(\int i L \, di\) for Inductor Energy Calculation?

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the expression \(\int i L \, di\) for calculating the energy stored in an inductor. Participants are exploring the mathematical reasoning behind this integration within the context of inductor energy equations.

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  • The original poster attempts to integrate the expression and questions the outcome of their integration process, noting a discrepancy between their result and the known formula for energy in an inductor. Other participants provide clarifications on integration rules and the importance of the variable of integration.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying integration techniques and addressing misunderstandings regarding the integration process. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct application of integration rules, but there is no explicit consensus on the resolution of the original poster's confusion.

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There is an emphasis on understanding the setup of differential and integral equations, as well as the importance of correctly identifying the variable with respect to which integration is performed. Participants are also discussing the implications of omitting constants of integration.

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I wanted to see the proof for the energy stored in an inductor equation was,
But i had trouble understand how part of this integration works i.e my math sucks

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given [tex]\frac{dw}{dt} = iv[/tex]

and [tex]VL = L \frac{di}{dt}[/tex]

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solving i get,
subtituting the ldt/dt for v

[tex]\frac{dw}{dt} = i L \frac{di}{dt}[/tex]

the dt's cancel out

[tex]dw = i L di[/tex]

then to find the work done I integrate the equation,

[tex]\int dw = \int i L di[/tex]

and the integral of [tex]\int dw = w[/tex]

but how do I integrate

[tex]\int i L di[/tex] ?

I know L, the inductance of the inductor is constant so can pull that outside the integral,
and get
[tex]L \int i di[/tex]

But what do I do here?

integrating i I get [tex]\frac{1}{2} i ^2 * i[/tex] according to the integration rules I've learnt

but everyone knows that the energy inside an inductor equation is

[tex]wL = \frac{1}{2} L i^2,[/tex]

but my integration shows it is [tex]\frac{1}{2} L i^3[/tex]

can someone please explain it to me
 
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First I think this equation

[tex] VL = L \frac{di}{dt} [/tex]

should be

[tex]V=L\frac{di}{dt}[/tex]

Well you got as far as W= L∫i di.


Now remember the rules of integration

[tex]\int x^n dx = \frac{x^{n+1}}{n+1}[/tex]

so what does your integral become?
 
when I wrote VL i ment the voltage across the inductor Vl,

[tex]\int i^1 di = \frac{i^(1+1)}{1+1}[/tex]

I just always assumed that the integral of something [tex]\int di = i[/tex]
or [tex]\int dx = x[/tex]

since when I integrate, [tex]\int dw = L \int i di[/tex]
I get [tex]w = \frac{1}{2} L i^2[/tex]

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I can see now that the di disappears, and all I'm integrating is i, which I can do easily
 
vorcil said:
I just always assumed that the integral of something [tex]\int di = i[/tex]
or [tex]\int dx = x[/tex]

yes those are correct, but you were integrating i w.r.t i. Not just 1.
 
rock.freak667 said:
yes those are correct, but you were integrating i w.r.t i. Not just 1.

so when I integrate x w.r.t x, I get the integral of x only?

[tex]\int x dx = \int x = \frac{1}{2}x^2[/tex]

but when I integrate dx,

[tex]\int dx = x[/tex] ?

so that dx after an equation means with respect to dx?
like in an integral equation, [tex]\int x dx[/tex] is means integrating x with respect to x?
 
vorcil said:
so when I integrate x w.r.t x, I get the integral of x only?

[tex]\int x dx = \int x = \frac{1}{2}x^2[/tex]

but when I integrate dx,

[tex]\int dx = x[/tex] ?

so that dx after an equation means with respect to dx?
like in an integral equation, [tex]\int x dx[/tex] is means integrating x with respect to x?

Yes. But the 'dx' does not just disappear.

[tex]\int 1 dx = x+C[/tex]


[tex]\int x dx = \frac{1}{2}x^2 +C[/tex]

(constant C for indefinite integrals)
 
ok thanks, I'll figure out how differential/integral equations are set up properly

instead of just using my cheap way and plugging everything into

[tex] \int x^n dx = \frac{x^{n+1}}{n+1}[/tex]
 
The differential part in an integral tells you what the variable of integration is. Don't leave it out as you did here. Also, don't leave out the constant of integration.
vorcil said:
[tex]\int x = \frac{1}{2}x^2[/tex]
It should be
[tex]\int x dx = \frac{1}{2}x^2 + C[/tex]

In this integral, a is the variable of integration.
[tex]\int a da = \frac{1}{2}a^2 + C[/tex]

In this one, x is the variable of integration, and a is just a constant.
[tex]\int a dx = a \int dx = ax + C[/tex]
In the integral above I used a property of integrals - the integral of a constant times a function is the constant times the integral of the function. Here the function is 1.
 

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