How do I determine the current amplitude and phase angle in an RLC AC circuit?

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The discussion revolves around determining the current amplitude and phase angle in an RLC AC circuit, specifically focusing on the relationship between voltage and current in terms of complex impedance.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the treatment of AC circuits in relation to simple harmonic motion (SHM) and question how to derive the current amplitude (I1) and phase angle (θ) from the given voltage expression. There is also discussion on the need for the circuit's impedance to find these values.

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Participants are actively discussing the impedance of the circuit and how to express it in terms of R, L, and C. Some have suggested using the equation I=V/Z to find the complex current, while others are clarifying the relationships between the magnitudes and phases of voltage and current.

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The circuit details are not fully specified, and participants are working with general forms of impedance without numerical values. There is an emphasis on understanding the complex nature of the circuit's impedance and its implications for current and voltage relationships.

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Voltage V(t)=V1 Re{eiwt} produces a current I(t)=I1 Re{e(iwt+θ). Determine I1 and θ.

The circuit is AC so do I treat it the same as an SHM question? Is π/2? And what do I need to do to find I1? I don't know where to start.
 
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What is the circuit? You need its complex impedance to find I1 and θ.

ehild
 
Ohh. The circuit is like this one:

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with no values given.
 
What is the impedance in terms of R, L, and C?

ehild
 
z = R + iωL +1/iωC ?

ehild said:
What is the impedance in terms of R, L, and C?

ehild
 
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OK, collecting the imaginary terms, it is Z=R+i(ωL -1/ωC ). This is a complex number. You can write it in exponential form:

Z=|Z|e (How?).

The complex voltage is V=V1eiωt

Use the equation I=V/Z to find the complex current.

ehild
 
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ehild said:
OK, collecting the imaginary terms, it is Z=R+i(ωL -1/ωC ). This is a complex number. You can write it in exponential form:

Z=|Z|eiωt (How?).

The complex voltage is V=V1eiωt

Use the equation I=V/Z to find the complex current.

ehild
I=V0/|Z| ?

But that gives me I0= V0/|Z|ei(ωt+θ).
 
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kate12 said:
I=V0/|Z| ?

But that gives me I0= V0/|Z|ei(ωt+θ).

You used I1 and V1 for the amplitudes in the original post.

I=V/Z . Z=|Z|e

That means

I0ei(ωt+θ)=V0ei(ωt)/[|Z|e]

Simplify with ei(ωt).

I0e=V0/[|Z|e]=[V0/|Z|]e-iψ

The magnitudes and phases have to be the same on both sides.

ehild
 

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