How do I find the area of a Quadrilateral?

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The discussion revolves around finding the area of a quadrilateral, with attempts to apply various methods including dividing the shape into triangles and using the distance formula. Participants explore the implications of triangle properties and area formulas.

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  • Participants discuss dividing the quadrilateral into triangles and question the correctness of the area calculations. There are inquiries about the properties of the triangles involved, particularly whether certain triangles are right triangles, and the appropriate formulas to use for area calculation.

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Hi,
I got a question from a book to find the area of a Quadrilateral. I divided the quadrilateral into two triangles but answer is not correct. Some body please guide me.

I am uploading my work in a attached file.

Zulfi.
Book Page 315.jpg
 
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For ADB, did you write ##A=\frac {1}{2}(6)(4)^2##?

And is triangle DBC a right triangle?
 
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Oh, and this should also be in the homework forum, not general math.
 
For ADB is correct. For the second isn't simply ##\frac{1}{2}6\times 6##, hint: calculate ##BD## and ##DC## (that are not ##6##) ...
 
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Ssnow said:
For ADB is correct. For the second isn't simply ##\frac{1}{2}6\times 6##, hint: calculate ##BD## and ##DC## (that are not ##6##) ...
distance formula :)
 
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Hi,
Thanks for replies. This is not a hw. Its exam preparation. But i would put my future questions related to book in a homework forum. I think you judge hws with the usage of books?
BD= sqrt(sqr( 5-1) + sqr(1-7))
= sqrt(16 + 36)
=2 *Sqrt(13)
Ans=? (I can't use calculator in exam)
DC = sqrt(sqr(11-5) + sqr(5-1))
= sqrt(36 + 16)
= 2*sqrt(13)

area of DBC = 1/2 (2*sqrt(13)) * ( 2 *sqrt(13))
Ans = 26

Area od ABCD = 26 + 12 =38.

This is the correct answer. Thanks.

Zulfi.
 
zak100 said:
Hi,
Thanks for replies. This is not a hw. Its exam preparation. But i would put my future questions related to book in a homework forum. I think you judge hws with the usage of books?
BD= sqrt(sqr( 5-1) + sqr(1-7))
= sqrt(16 + 36)
=2 *Sqrt(13)
Ans=? (I can't use calculator in exam)
DC = sqrt(sqr(11-5) + sqr(5-1))
= sqrt(36 + 16)
= 2*sqrt(13)

area of DBC = 1/2 (2*sqrt(13)) * ( 2 *sqrt(13))
Ans = 26

Area od ABCD = 26 + 12 =38.

This is the correct answer. Thanks.

Zulfi.
How do you know that ΔDBC is a right triangle ?
 
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Hi,
No I am not saying that DBC is a right angle triangle. That's why i think they have asked me to use distance formula. However from fig it looks that ABD is a right angle triangle, so i am not using distance formula here and calculating the area directly using 1/2 alt * base formula.

I also have a question:
for triangle DBC why are we using sides DB & DC? why can't we take sides DB & BC??
Some body please guide me.

Zulfi.
 
zak100 said:
Hi,
No I am not saying that DBC is a right angle triangle. That's why i think they have asked me to use distance formula. However from fig it looks that ABD is a right angle triangle, so i am not using distance formula here and calculating the area directly using 1/2 alt * base formula.

I also have a question:
for triangle DBC why are we using sides DB & DC? why can't we take sides DB & BC??
Some body please guide me.

Zulfi.
What are you using as a formula to calculate the area of a triangle ?

The altitude is the perpendicular distance from the base to the opposite vertex.
 
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ProfuselyQuarky said:
Oh, and this should also be in the homework forum, not general math.
Thread moved.

zak100 said:
Thanks for replies. This is not a hw. Its exam preparation. But i would put my future questions related to book in a homework forum. I think you judge hws with the usage of books?
This forum section is for homework and coursework, which includes problems found in textbooks.
 
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SammyS said:
How do you know that ΔDBC is a right triangle ?
SammyS said:
What are you using as a formula to calculate the area of a triangle ?

The altitude is the perpendicular distance from the base to the opposite vertex.
That is why I asked whether DBC was a right triangle or not. If DBC is not a right triangle, then you can not you ##A=\frac {1}{2}bh## to find the area. Instead, you have to use Heron’s theorem which states ##A=\sqrt {(s-a)(s-b)(s-c)}## where ##s=\frac {1}{2}(a+b+c)## and variables ##a##, ##b##, and ##c## are the sides of the triangle.
 
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ProfuselyQuarky said:
That is why I asked whether DBC was a right triangle or not. If DBC is not a right triangle, then you can not you ##A=\frac {1}{2}bh## to find the area. Instead, you have to use Heron’s theorem which states ##A=\sqrt {(s-a)(s-b)(s-c)}## where ##s=\frac {1}{2}(a+b+c)## and variables ##a##, ##b##, and ##c## are the sides of the triangle.
Are you giving the solution, or are you trying to help OP.

Heron's theorem is not needed here.
 
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SammyS said:
Are you giving the solution, or are you trying to help OP.

Heron's theorem is not needed here.
I was just helping the OP overall. Nothing to do with the specific problem :smile:
 
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One easy way to solve this kind of exercises is a variation on the "box method", illustrated here for the area of a triangle.

Add the points E(11,7) and F(11,1) to your graph, and the area of ABCD can be easily computed:

quadri.jpg


Or decompose your quadrilateral as follows:

quadri2.jpg
 
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@Samy_A Nice pictures. What software did you use for them?
 
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LCKurtz said:
@Samy_A Nice pictures. What software did you use for them?
Geogebra
 

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