How do I Find the Jacobi Matrix and Its Determinant for a Given Transformation?

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The problem involves finding the Jacobi matrix and its determinant for a transformation defined from R² to R², specifically the transformation f(x,y) = (y^5, x^3). The original poster is seeking clarification on how to proceed with the differentiation and the calculation of the determinant without specific values for x and y.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to differentiate the components of the transformation to construct the Jacobi matrix but expresses uncertainty about the next steps, particularly regarding the determinant. Some participants suggest that the original poster should leave the variables as x and y instead of substituting specific values. Another participant raises a question about the distinction between the Jacobi matrix and the Jacobi determinant.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of variables in the Jacobi matrix, and questions about the relationship between the Jacobi matrix and determinant have been raised, indicating a productive line of inquiry.

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The original poster notes a lack of additional information that typically accompanies such problems, which may affect their ability to proceed with the solution. There is also a mention of a related task involving integrals and a function g, which may introduce further complexity to the discussion.

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Homework Statement



The transformation f is defined by: R^2 --> R^2 and is defined by:
f(x,y) = (y^5, x^3)

Find the jacobi matrix and its determinant

Homework Equations



f(x,y) = (y^5, x^3)

The Attempt at a Solution



I would start by differentiating y^5 with respect to x and then y, then differentiate x^3 with respect to x and then y.

I end up with:

Df = (0... 5y^4 )
...(3x^2... 0 )

And from here I don't know what to do. Usually I would be told, that Df = (2,1) for example, and then I would place them instead of y and x, but here I am not given any other information than what I have written above. How do I find the determinant?
 
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How about just doing what you were told to do? Yes, if you were asked to find the Jacobian matrix and its determinant at, say, (1, 2) you would replace x and y with those. But you aren't asked to do that so just leave them as "x" and "y".
 
HallsofIvy said:
How about just doing what you were told to do? Yes, if you were asked to find the Jacobian matrix and its determinant at, say, (1, 2) you would replace x and y with those. But you aren't asked to do that so just leave them as "x" and "y".

Okay, thank you.

But I have another question, what is the difference between the Jacobi Matrix and the Jacobi determinant?
 
I am also asked to:

let D be the set of points (x,y) in R^2 doe which 0 ≤ x ≤ 1 and

0 ≤ y ≤ 1. Find a function g: R^2 --> R for which

1010 h(x,y)dxdy =
1010 h(y5, x3*g(x,y)dxdy

is true for all functions h: D --> R integrable over D
 

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