How do I find the variance of p for a given wave function?

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The discussion revolves around finding the variance of momentum (p) for a given wave function, specifically \(\Psi(x,0)=A(a^2-x^2)\). Participants express confusion regarding the setup of the integral and the handling of derivatives within the context of quantum mechanics.

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  • Participants discuss the need to compute

    and as part of finding the variance, with some suggesting specific integrals involving derivatives of the wave function. There is uncertainty about how to correctly apply the second derivative in the integral setup.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the integrals and derivatives, while others are questioning the implications of their calculations on the variance and the uncertainty principle. Multiple interpretations of the derivatives and their effects on the variance are being explored.

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There is a noted confusion about the implications of the integral limits and how they relate to the calculated values of

and , particularly in relation to the uncertainty principle.

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I am trying to find the variance of p for a wave function \Psi(x,0)=A(a^2-x^2)

I'm confused about how to set up the integral.

it should be something like -i^2h^2\int_{-a}^a A(a^2-x^2) (\frac{\partial\Psi}{\partial x})^2 dx

I'm confused about the partial derivative squared. My technique was to set up the integral like this:

hA^3\int_{-a}^a (a^2-x^2) (-2x^2)^2 dx but I'm pretty sure my answer is way wrong. I don't know how to deal with the partial derivative. please help.

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For the variance, you need to find <p> and <p2>, then σ2=<p2>-(<p>)2. With

\psi(x)=A(a^{2}-x^{2})

You should use

&lt;p^{2}&gt;=A^{2}\int(a^{2}-x^{2})(-\hbar^{2})\frac{d^{2}}{dx^{2}}(a^{2}-x^{2}) dx

and

&lt;p&gt;=A^{2}\int(a^{2}-x^{2})(-i\hbar)\frac{d}{dx}(a^{2}-x^{2}) dx

Take the second or first derivatives under the integral sign, before you integrate.
 
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Thank you. I already found p, but my question is particularly about the part of the integrand that contains the partial derivative squared.

\frac{d^{2}}{dx^{2}}(a^{2}-x^{2}) dx

I don't know what to do with that.
 
Is it just (-2x)^2[\tex]
 
agingstudent said:
Thank you. I already found p, but my question is particularly about the part of the integrand that contains the partial derivative squared.

\frac{d^{2}}{dx^{2}}(a^{2}-x^{2}) dx

I don't know what to do with that.

Forget about the dx on the end of that expression until you are ready to integrate.

Just take the second derivative of a^2-x^2 with respect to x...that's exactly what \frac{d^{2}}{dx^{2}}(a^{2}-x^{2}) means.
 
So the second derivative is just taking the derivative twice, right? Which means the answer is 2?
 
agingstudent said:
So the second derivative is just taking the derivative twice, right? Which means the answer is 2?

Yes, \frac{d^2}{dx^2}f(x) is just another way of writing f&#039;&#039;(x).
 
agingstudent said:
so the second derivative is just taking the derivative twice, right? Which means the answer is 2?

- 2.
 
This can't be right. The integral is between -a and a, and this would set <p^2> to 0. But <p> is 0, and that would make the variance 0, which would violate the uncertainty principle.
 
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agingstudent said:
This can't be right. The integral is between -a and a, and this would set <p^2> to 0. But <p> is 0, and that would make the variance 0, which would violate the uncertainty principle.

No,

\langle p^2\rangle=2\hbar^2A^2\int_{-a}^{a} (a^2-x^2)dx\neq 0
 
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No, it's not. I got the right answer. Thanks for all your help!
 

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