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The discussion revolves around calculating the probability of a certain number of people using Google based on a binomial distribution. The initial calculation aimed to find the probability of 2 or fewer people using Google, but confusion arose regarding the correct interpretation of the problem. Participants suggested using binomial distribution tables and calculators to verify results, emphasizing the importance of maintaining precision in calculations involving small probabilities. Ultimately, the correct approach involves calculating the probability of more than 2 people not using Google, leading to a final probability estimate of approximately 0.891. The conversation highlights the complexities of binomial probability calculations and the need for clarity in defining parameters.
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Homework Statement
According to a report of the Nielson Company, 76% of Internet searches used Google
search engine. If 20 searches are randomly selected, find the probability that
more than 2 did not use Google.
Relevant Equations
nCr*0.76^n*0.24^r
i believe that the solution is to do 1- (less than 2 did use google)

so it would look like
1-
((20!/0!20!)0.76^0*0.24^20 +
(20!/1!19!)0.76^1*0.24^19 +
(20!/2!18!)0.76^2*0.24^18)
= 0.99
but logically, this does not make sense to be .99.
what am i doing wrong?
 
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How are you doing the arithmetic? It's difficult to get good answers in a calculation that involves quantities like ##0.24^{20}## unless you keep a lot of digits in the calculations.

To check your result, you can consult tables of the binomial distribution online. For example, the table for n = 20 given by http://www.sjsu.edu/people/saul.cohn/courses/stats/s0/BinomialProbabTable.pdf gives results for p = 0.20 and p = 0.25.
You can look at the values for 18,19 and 20 successes to get an idea of what should happen for p = 0.24.

Edit: There is this "binomial calculator" webpage https://www.anesi.com/binomial.htm?p=0.24&n=20
It displays a table if you select the "show full data table" option. (Of course, I haven't tried to check its answers.)
 
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Stephen Tashi said:
How are you doing the arithmetic? It's difficult to get good answers in a calculation that involves quantities like ##0.24^{20}## unless you keep a lot of digits in the calculations.

To check your result, you can consult tables of the binomial distribution online. For example, the table for n = 20 given by http://www.sjsu.edu/people/saul.cohn/courses/stats/s0/BinomialProbabTable.pdf gives results for p = 0.20 and p = 0.25.
You can look at the values for 18,19 and 20 successes to get an idea of what should happen for p = 0.24.

Edit: There is this "binomial calculator" webpage https://www.anesi.com/binomial.htm?p=0.24&n=20
It displays a table if you select the "show full data table" option. (Of course, I haven't tried to check its answers.)


On the table you provided me with, (the first link) the answer i got was correct with Probability of k successes or more. but i don't know if that is the right since it is asking the backwards answer for this question, since more than 2 did NOT use google, its tripping me up.
 
Here's your calculation in Maple:
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Edit, added: After looking more closely though I think you may want $$
\sum_{k=18}^{20} \binom {20} k p^k(1-p)^{20-k}$$ which comes out about ##.108##.
 
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rhiana said:
find the probability that more than 2 did not use Google.
i believe that the solution is to do 1- (less than 2 did use google)

The correct way to say it would be "1 - (2 or fewer did use google)"

That's what you calculated.

[Edit: No, it should be "1 - (2 or fewer did not use google)"]
 
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It's getting late and maybe I'm tired, but I think we are both wrong above, and it should be
$$\sum_{k=0}^{17} \binom {20} k p^k(1-p)^{20-k} = 1-\sum_{k=18}^{20} \binom {20} k p^k(1-p)^{20-k} $$ which is about ##.891##.
 
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LCKurtz said:
It's getting late and maybe I'm tired, but I think we are both wrong above, and it should be
$$\sum_{k=0}^{17} \binom {20} k p^k(1-p)^{20-k} = 1-\sum_{k=18}^{20} \binom {20} k p^k(1-p)^{20-k} $$ which is about ##.891##.

alright, the p is different than any variable I've used in this course, is p always going to be 0.76? and k is reducing from 20 until 2?
 
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As you gave and I put in the Maple worksheet ##p=.76,~ q = 1-p = .24##
 
LCKurtz said:
As you gave and I put in the Maple worksheet ##p=.76,~ q = 1-p = .24##
thank you so much for taking time out of your day to help me out! i appreciate it
 

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