How do I integrate sqrt(t^2 + 8)?

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function sqrt(t^2 + 8) as part of solving an arc length problem related to a curve defined by a vector function. Participants explore various methods of integration, particularly focusing on trigonometric substitution.

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  • One participant describes an arc length problem and reduces the integral to 2 * integral(sqrt(t^2 + 8)) while seeking advice on how to perform the integration.
  • Another participant suggests using trigonometric substitution, specifically x = sqrt(8)tan(u), to simplify the integral.
  • A later reply elaborates on the substitution, indicating that it leads to an integral involving secant and cosine functions, and discusses further transformations to reduce the integral to a rational function.
  • Some participants express gratitude for the assistance, indicating that the provided methods are helpful despite being complex.

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Participants generally agree on the use of trigonometric substitution as a viable method for tackling the integral, but no consensus is reached on the final steps or the overall approach to the integration.

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The discussion includes various assumptions about the applicability of trigonometric substitution and the transformations involved, which may depend on the participants' familiarity with integration techniques.

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I am trying to figure out the following arc length problem, and it's really coming down to a question over intregration.

Compute the length of the curve r(t)=(4t)i +(4t)j+(t^2+6k) over the interval 0 to 6.

I have dr/dt = (4, 4, 2t) , and then used the arc length equation:

L= integral 0,6 ( sqrt((4^2)+(4^2) +(2t)^2)

and have reduced this to 2 int((sqrt(t^2+8))

I'm doing this to prepare for a test, and have "cheated" by using my calculator to get an answer of 2(6*sqrt(11) + 4*arcsinh(3/sqrt(2))) . I have no idea how to do the intregration of the sqrt(t^2 +8) and would greatly appreciate some advice. Thank you
 
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[tex]\int \sqrt{x^2+8}dx[/tex] well, as i can see probbably a trig substitution would clean things up, let me have a crack at it.

[tex]x=\sqrt{8}tan(u)=>dx=\frac{\sqrt{8}}{cos^2u}[/tex] now,

[tex]\int \sqrt{8tan^2u+8}\frac{\sqrt{8}}{cos^2u}du[/tex]
 
OK thanks a lot - its a little messy but definitely helps
 
jplandreneau said:
OK thanks a lot - its a little messy but definitely helps

Actually i was going to type the whole thing, but i was havin' latex problems in this comp. so that's what i eventually posted.
 
The point is that [itex]sec^2(\theta)= 1+ tan^2(\theta)[/itex] so that the substitution [itex]x= \sqrt{8}tan u[/itex] gives [itex]\sqrt{x^2+ 8}= \sqrt{8tan^2u+ 8}= \sqrt{8}sec u[/itex]. Since sec u= 1/cos u, the integral becomes
[tex]8\int \frac{du}{cos^3 u}[/tex]
Since that involves an odd factor of cos u, you can multiply numerator and denominator by cos u to get
[tex]8\int \frac{cos u du}{cos^4 u}= 8\int \frac{cos u du}{(1- sin^2u)^2}[/tex]
and use the substitution y= sin u to reduce to a rational function which can then be done by partial fractions.
 
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