How do I manipulate algebraic expressions?

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The discussion revolves around manipulating algebraic expressions, specifically transforming the expression \(\frac{2y^{2}}{4+y^{2}}\) into the form \(2-\frac{8}{4+y^{2}}\) as encountered in a calculus context.

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  • Participants explore different methods to manipulate the expression, including adding and subtracting terms in the numerator and using long division. Some express frustration at not initially recognizing the transformation.

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Several participants have provided insights into the manipulation techniques, with some expressing clarity after discussing the approaches. There appears to be a productive exchange of ideas, though no consensus on a single method has been reached.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework problem, and there is a sense of urgency and confusion regarding the algebraic manipulation required.

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As part of a calculus question, the solutions manual takes [tex]\frac{2y^{2}}{4+y^{2}}[/tex]
And somehow turns it into [tex]\left(2-\frac{8}{4+y^{2}}\right)[/tex]

Ive scribbled all the things i can thinkof on paper and still can't seem to get from one to the other, its driving me nuts!

Any help would be much appreciated :D.

Cheers.
 
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They appear to add 8 and subtract 8 from the numerator. That is,

[tex]\frac{2y^2}{4+y^2}=\frac{2y^2+8-8}{4+y^2}=\frac{2(4+y^2)-8}{4+y^2}=2-\frac{8}{4+y^2}[/tex]
 
cristo said:
They appear to add 8 and subtract 8 from the numerator. That is,

[tex]\frac{2y^2}{4+y^2}=\frac{2y^2+8-8}{4+y^2}=\frac{2(4+y^2)-8}{4+y^2}=2-\frac{8}{4+y^2}[/tex]

Ahhh, i feel like such a fool for not seeing that.

Thanks ;)
 
Another way to see that is simply "long division". [itex]y^2+ 0y+ 4[/itex] divides into [itex]2y^2+ 0y+ 0[/itex] 2 times with a remainder of [itex]2y^2- 2(y^2+ 4)= 2y^2-2y^2- 8= -8[/tex] so<br /> [tex]\frac{2y^2}{y^2+ 4}= 2- \frac{8}{y^2+ 4}[/tex][/itex]
 
HallsofIvy said:
Another way to see that is simply "long division". [itex]y^2+ 0y+ 4[/itex] divides into [itex]2y^2+ 0y+ 0[/itex] 2 times with a remainder of [itex]2y^2- 2(y^2+ 4)= 2y^2-2y^2- 8= -8[/tex] so<br /> [tex]\frac{2y^2}{y^2+ 4}= 2- \frac{8}{y^2+ 4}[/tex][/itex]
[itex] <br /> Thanks ;). Very clear to me now.[/itex]
 

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