How do I show the series of an*bn converges?

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The discussion revolves around demonstrating the convergence of the series formed by the product of two sequences, \( a_n \) and \( b_n \). Participants are exploring various approaches to establish this convergence, including the use of inequalities and properties of partial sums.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants suggest considering the partial sums of the series and treating them as sequences. There is a discussion on using inequalities to relate the sums of products to the sums of squares. Questions arise regarding the necessity of absolute values in the inequalities and the implications for convergence.

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Some participants have provided guidance on filling in details for the inequalities and suggested methods for proving convergence. There are also discussions about counterexamples in the complex case, indicating a productive exploration of different scenarios. However, there is no explicit consensus on a single approach yet.

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Participants mention constraints related to the nature of the sequences and the context of the problem, including references to past papers and the non-take-home nature of the test.

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How do I show the series of an*bn converges?
 
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Perhaps consider the partial sums of the series and treat that like a sequence.
 
how about

0<=(a-b)^2
2ab<=a^2+b^2
2ab<=a^2+b^2
therefore

2*sum(ab)<=sum(a^2)+sum(b^2)

Where the RHS converges

As the LHS converges absolutely sum(ab) converges?

Any ideas about the examples?
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this is from a past paper by the way, I can link you if you like, it's not a take home test
 
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You have the right idea, but you should fill in a few details.

For example, you showed that

2ab <= a^2 + b^2

but you implicitly use the fact that

2|ab| <= a^2 + b^2

if you're talking about absolute convergence.

Why is the inequality true for |ab|? And do you need this? The statement that you are trying to prove doesn't have an absolute value on the left side.

Also, I recommend that you start by taking finite sums of both sides of the inequalities (summing from 1 to N), and then be very careful to explain why it remains true as N goes to infinity.
 
thank you very much for your time, I will do that :)
 
For the counterexample in the complex case, try to think of sequences such that

a_r^2
and
b_r^2

are both real with alternating signs, but

a_r b_r

is always real and positive.
 
So say something like an=i^n/n^0.5 and bn=an=-i^n/n^0.5

Excellent! that seems to work, thank you very much, now I can finally go to sleep
 
Yep, that's the example I was thinking of.
 
You can try to show that S(n) = sum{a_k*b_k,k=1..n} is a Cauchy sequence, that is, that S(m+n) - S(n) goes to zero for large n, m. Note that S(m+n)-S(n) is just the inner product of two vectors (a_n, a_{n+1},...,a_{n+m}) and (b_n,b_{n+1},...,b_{n+m}) in m-dimensional space.

RGV
 

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