How Do I Solve sec(θ-150°)=4 for θ Within Specific Degree Limits?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving the equation sec(θ-150°) = 4 for θ, with specific constraints on the angle θ being between -180° and 180°. Participants explore the implications of the reference angle and the behavior of the cosine function within the given limits.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about solving the equation and notes discrepancies between their calculations and the textbook answers.
  • Another participant points out that the angle θ - 150° is a reference angle, suggesting this is important for finding solutions.
  • A participant explains that cosine is positive in the first and fourth quadrants, which influences the selection of angles for solutions.
  • There is a discussion about the validity of certain angles, with one participant questioning the derivation of -284.5° and its relevance to the specified range for θ.
  • Participants discuss the need to consider the restrictions on θ when deriving solutions, particularly how the reference angle affects the final answers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express confusion and differing interpretations regarding the correct solutions and the implications of the reference angle. There is no consensus on the correct approach to derive the second value of θ or the validity of certain angles within the specified range.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of the specified range for θ and the behavior of the cosine function, but there are unresolved mathematical steps and assumptions regarding angle transformations and their implications.

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After a long summer, I finding my new C3 homework a bit tricky, so any help would be great!

Here is the question: sec(θ-150 degrees)=4

(solving for theta is greater than or equal to -180, but less than or equal to 180)

So I know that sec is the reciprocal of cos so I changed the equation to cos(θ-150)=1/4
from there I did the inverse of cos to get θ-150 = 75.52, then I added 150 to get θ= 225.5
I then drew a cos graph and from this would assume that the answers are 134.5 and -134.5... but the answer booklet for my textbook says they are -134.5 and 74.5!

This is probably so simple but I have no clue what I'm doing wrong!
(Sweating)

 
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Needhelp said:
After a long summer, I finding my new C3 homework a bit tricky, so any help would be great!

Here is the question: sec(θ-150 degrees)=4

(solving for theta is greater than or equal to -180, but less than or equal to 180)

So I know that sec is the reciprocal of cos so I changed the equation to cos(θ-150)=1/4
from there I did the inverse of cos to get θ-150 = 75.52, then I added 150 to get θ= 225.5
I then drew a cos graph and from this would assume that the answers are 134.5 and -134.5... but the answer booklet for my textbook says they are -134.5 and 74.5!

This is probably so simple but I have no clue what I'm doing wrong!
(Sweating)


The angle theta - 150 is a reference angle. What does that mean for your solutions?

-Dan
 
topsquark said:
The angle theta - 150 is a reference angle. What does that mean for your solutions?

-Dan

What is a reference angle? Sorry for such a silly question!
 
Needhelp said:
After a long summer, I finding my new C3 homework a bit tricky, so any help would be great!

Here is the question: sec(θ-150 degrees)=4

(solving for theta is greater than or equal to -180, but less than or equal to 180)

So I know that sec is the reciprocal of cos so I changed the equation to cos(θ-150)=1/4
from there I did the inverse of cos to get θ-150 = 75.52, then I added 150 to get θ= 225.5
I then drew a cos graph and from this would assume that the answers are 134.5 and -134.5... but the answer booklet for my textbook says they are -134.5 and 74.5!

This is probably so simple but I have no clue what I'm doing wrong!
(Sweating)



It looks like you've got one answer but the second answer of 74.5 is confusing you. Where are $\cos(x)$ or $\sec(x)$ positive? In the first and fourth quadrants. Since your solution is positive then these need to be positive as well.

The way to set up your solution normally would be:

[math]\theta - 150 = 75.5[/math] and [math]\theta - 150 = -75.5[/math]

Due to restrictions though in directions we must rewrite the first angle as a negative angle so we get [math]\theta - 150 = -284.5[/math]

Make sense?
 
Not really...(Sweating) I don't understand where you got the value of -284 from, and it isn't within the degree specification? (at least if it goes from -180 up to 180)
Sorry for being so dim, could you possibly take it step by step to get the second value of 74.5 and explain why 134.5 isn't a valid answer?

Im just so confused :confused:

Thanks though for all your help!
 
Needhelp said:
Not really...(Sweating) I don't understand where you got the value of -284 from, and it isn't within the degree specification? (at least if it goes from -180 up to 180)
Sorry for being so dim, could you possibly take it step by step to get the second value of 74.5 and explain why 134.5 isn't a valid answer?

Im just so confused :confused:

Thanks though for all your help!

Sure :)

You're right that -284 isn't within the degree specification but that's not what $\theta$ is. We're looking at $\theta - 150$. $\theta$ must be from -180 to 180 but not $\theta - 150$. The -284.5 comes from the fact that if you look at the angle 75.5 degrees you can consider this as going counter-clockwise 75.5 degrees or go the other way a whole -284.5 degrees (clockwise because it's a negative angle) and you'll reach the same place. Notice that 284.5+75.5=360. Try drawing them both.

This problem has a restriction on $\theta$ which makes it tricky. You almost solved it yourself. Without the restrictions you could just solve:

(1) $\displaystyle \theta - 150 = 75.5$
(2) $\displaystyle \theta - 150 = -75.5$

as I said before. The reason you would choose (1) and (2) is because we need $\cos( \theta-150)$ to be positive and cosine is only positive in the first and fourth quadrant.

However due to the restrictions on $\theta$ if we solve both of these then the answer for (1) doesn't fall within the specified domain, so we must rewrite 75.5 as -284.5.
 
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