How Do I Solve This Kinematic Equation Problem with Gravity?

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The discussion revolves around a kinematic equation problem involving projectile motion and gravity. Participants are analyzing the motion of a ball thrown vertically and its interaction with a bat at a specified height.

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  • Participants discuss the initial and final velocities of the ball, questioning the assumptions about the initial conditions and the setup of the kinematic equations. Some attempt to apply the quadratic formula to find the time of flight, while others point out potential errors in calculations.

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So I'm given...

In the y-direction
vo = 0 m/s
vf = 7.5 m/s (is the speed of the ball thrown straight up)
g = -9.81 m/s2 (when it falls back down)

yo = 0 m
yf = 1.5 m (at this height above the ground, the bat connects with the ball)

t = ?

I tried doing this...

yf = yo + vyot + (1/2)gt2
1.5 = 0 + (0)t + (1/2)(-9.81)t
1.5 = -4.905t
0.30581 = t

:(
Help?
 
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riseofphoenix said:
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So I'm given...

In the y-direction
vo = 0 m/s
vf = 7.5 m/s (is the speed of the ball thrown straight up)

Projectile motion starts just after the ball leaves the bat. So, the initial velocity is not zero. The final velocity would be the velocity the ball strikes the ground (not given).

Similarly, think about the initial and final values of y.
 
TSny said:
Projectile motion starts just after the ball leaves the bat. So, the initial velocity is not zero. The final velocity would be the velocity the ball strikes the ground (unknown).

Similarly, think about the initial and final values of y.

Ok... So

vo = 7.5 m/s (initial speed of the ball when thrown straight up)
vf = ____ m/s (the final speed when the ball strikes the ground)
g = -9.81 m/s2 (when it falls back down)

yo = 1.5 m
yf = 0 m (at this height above the ground, the bat connects with the ball)

t = ?

Like that?
 
Yes. Good.
 
TSny said:
Yes. Good.

yf = yo + vyot + (1/2)gt2

0 = 1.5 + 7.5t + (1/2)(-9.81)t2
0 = 1.5 + 7.5t - 4.095t2
0 = - 4.095t2 + 7.5t + 1.5

Quadratic formula:

[ -b ± √(b2 - 4ac) ] / 2a
= [ -7.5 ± √(7.52 - 4(-4.095)(1.5)) ] / 2(-4.095)
= [ -7.5 ± √(56.25 +24.57) ] / -8.19
= [ -7.5 ± √(80.82) ] / -8.19
= ( -7.5 ± 8.989 ) / -8.19
= ( -7.5 - 8.989 ) / -8.19
= -16.48999444 / -8.19
= -16.48999444 / -8.19
t = 2.013 s


What did I do wrong??
 
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Looks like just a slip. Half of 9.81 is not 4.095
 
TSny said:
Looks like just a slip. Half of 9.81 is not 4.095

Oh yeah...i just realized that..the answer is supposed to be A :)

Can you help me out with one more?

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I tried doing...
a2 + b2 = c2 after making my triangle...

3.22 + b2 = 122
b2 = 144-10.24
b = √(133.76)
b = 11.56

And then I tried doing

12*sin (18.9) = 3.89 m
 
Don't you think gravity might come into it somewhere?
 

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