How do i stick two magnets against the repulsive force?

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The discussion revolves around the challenge of sticking two magnets together against their repulsive force, specifically focusing on the use of adhesives and alternative methods for positioning magnets close to each other. The context includes practical applications in electrical engineering and considerations for safety and material choice.

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  • One participant inquires about how to stick two magnets together against their repulsive force and asks for advice on suitable glue, mentioning the use of neodymium magnets.
  • Another participant warns about the strong attractive force of neodymium magnets and suggests that expert supervision may be necessary due to safety concerns.
  • A different participant mentions that an expert advised them it is almost impossible to find a glue that can withstand the repulsive force of neodymium magnets, leading them to consider switching to ferrite magnets.
  • One suggestion involves creating a wooden holder with drilled holes for the magnets, using PVA wood glue to secure the holder before inserting the magnets.
  • A participant raises the importance of the size of the magnets, indicating that smaller magnets (6mm) may be easier to secure with epoxy compared to larger ones.
  • Another participant suggests attaching supporting blocks to the mounting board to physically restrain the magnets as an alternative method.

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Participants express differing opinions on the feasibility of using glue to hold magnets against their repulsive force, with some suggesting alternatives like physical restraints. There is no consensus on a definitive solution, and safety concerns are highlighted by multiple participants.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention limitations regarding the strength of adhesives and the potential dangers associated with handling neodymium magnets. The discussion also reflects uncertainty about the effectiveness of various methods proposed for securing the magnets.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in practical applications of magnetism, particularly in engineering contexts, as well as those exploring safe handling and mounting techniques for strong magnets.

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how do i stick two magnets against the repulsive force??

Hey guys,

I'm a new member on the forum and I have just finished school and joined electrical engineering this year. I would like to know how I can stick two magnets near each other against their repulsive force.

For example two magnets A and B can be stuck on a wooden board 5 cm from each other due to repulsive force. I would like to stick them 3 cms from each other. What kind of glue do I use? Epoxy?

I have not experimented yet because I wanted some advice first as some of these are costly neodynum magnets and have strong repulsive force.

note: I can not change(switch) the poles of the magnet.

Thank you.:smile:
 
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Hey vidarth! Welcome to PF! :wink:
vidarth said:
… I have not experimented yet because I wanted some advice first as some of these are costly neodynum magnets and have strong repulsive force.

"Neodymium" magnets also have a have strong attractive force, which (depending on their size, of course) can make them very dangerous.

Are you sure you should be doing this without expert supervision?

See for example http://www.kjmagnetics.com/safety.asp, or anything from a "neodymium magnets safety" google search. :smile:
 


Hey,


thanks for the reply. Yes I have asked somebody (an expert) about the neodymium magnets and they told me that it was almost impossible to have a glue that could withstand the repulsive force of the magnet. So I've decided to switch to the standard ferrite magnets instead. Can you tell me if I can use epoxy glue for this??
 


I would get another piece of wood as thick as the magnets and drill holes in it with a spade bit so they are the right spacing and diameter for the neodymium magnets.
Glue this to the wood you already have without the magnets in the holes. Just PVA wood glue is OK. Allow 24 hours for the glue to set.

When the glue has set put the magnets in the holes. If necessary, arrange a clamp to hold the magnets in the holes. This can be almost anything that is strong enough.

If appearance matters, and you can afford it, you could use perspex or plexiglass for the magnet holder.

As someone pointed out, Neodymium magnets tend to find each other very readily and you can get bruised or bleeding fingers if they get in the way.
Also, they are brittle and chip easily if they collide violently.
 


What size are the magnets? A pair of 6mm x 6mm x 6mm magnets will easily hold in place with epoxy. A pair of 60mm magnets, not so much.

How about first attaching supporting blocks to your mounting board -- kind of like bookends -- to physically restrain the magnets?
 


Size of the magnets: 6mm

so I guess epoxide would do fine. Thanks for all the ideas.
 

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