How Do Lenses Exhibit Fourier Transforming Properties in Optics?

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The discussion revolves around the Fourier transforming properties of lenses in optics, particularly in relation to Fraunhofer diffraction. Participants explore the theoretical and experimental implications of using lenses versus simple setups for obtaining Fourier transforms of apertures.

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that while both Fraunhofer diffraction and lens focusing exhibit Fourier transforming actions, the key difference lies in the distance required for the Fourier relation to hold, with lenses providing a more practical solution for visible object sizes.
  • Another participant questions the attribution of the Fourier transforming property to lenses, suggesting that the lens merely focuses the Fourier transform rather than transforming it, and emphasizes the importance of mathematical derivations in understanding this action.
  • A further point is made regarding the assumptions involved in deriving the Fourier transforming action, specifically mentioning the thin lens and paraxial approximation, and how deviations may occur with thick lenses or those with large diameter-to-focus ratios.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the lens's role is to transform or merely focus the Fourier transform, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on specific assumptions such as the thin lens approximation, and the potential deviations in behavior when using thick lenses or varying diameter-to-focus ratios.

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I was reading about this Fourier transforming property of lens,when I came by the experimental setup for Fourier optics(with laser and a 4f correlator system).Part of the setup was that of Fraunhofer diffraction and we get the Fourier transform of the aperture at the focal point of first lens.
But then a simple setup for Fraunhofer diffraction,which need not consist of a lens, could do the Fourier transform,why is said that the lens has the transforming property?
 
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Both Fraunhofer difffraction and lens focusing have Fourier transforming action. The main difference between them is the required distance for the Fourier relation to hold. In the case of positive lens, the Fourier transform of the object can be obtained at the back focal plane. In contrast, for the same object size, the Fraunhofer diffraction pattern which gives the Fourier transform of the object must be observed at distances which satisfy the requirement
$$
L >> \frac{2a^2}{\lambda}
$$
where ##a## is the object size. For daily object of sizes on the order of a few centimeters and red wavelength, the required distance will have to be much larger 1 km.
In this sense, using lens as a Fourier transform calculator for objects with sizes visible to naked eyes is much more realistic. It can be proven that the relief of the Fourier transforming property of positive lens from the Fraunhofer distance requirement is achieved thanks to the phase transfer function of the lens, which cancels the same, but opposite sign phase factor that appears in the Fresnel diffraction formula.

 
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What If I have a simple experimental setup for Fraunhofer diffraction of say a rectangular aperture, with a laser source and get the Fourier transform on a screen(without any kind of lenses).Now I introduce a converging lens in front of the illuminated aperture and I get the same result but at it's focal plane. Isn't this just the focusing property of the lens? I mean all it did was focus the Fourier transform,why is it attributed with the property of transforming?
 
wellorderingp said:
I mean all it did was focus the Fourier transform
Rather than thinking that the lens focuses the Fourier transform, instead it is more correct to think that it's the focusing property of a converging lens which makes it Fourier transform the incident field. You may be able to understand this action through mathematical derivations. The Fourier transforming action was in fact derived using the assumption of thin lens and paraxial approximation. If one uses instead, thick lens and/or lenses with large diameter-to-focus ratio, despite still have the focusing property, the field at the focal plane will deviate from the exact Fourier transform.
 

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