How do light's magnetic fields work?

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The discussion revolves around the conceptual understanding of light's magnetic fields in the context of electromagnetic waves. The original poster expresses confusion about the nature of magnetic fields associated with light, particularly questioning the representation of these fields and their characteristics compared to traditional magnetic fields around current-carrying wires.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between electric and magnetic fields in electromagnetic waves, questioning whether the magnetic field lines are similar to concentric circles or if they are represented as straight lines. There is also discussion about the nature of these fields and their depiction in diagrams.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights referencing Maxwell's Equations and the self-propagating nature of electromagnetic waves. However, there remains a lack of consensus on the exact nature of the magnetic field lines in this context, with various interpretations being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of visualizing magnetic fields in relation to light and electromagnetic waves, indicating potential confusion stemming from differing representations in diagrams and traditional magnetic field concepts.

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This is just a conceptual question that I've been personally wondering about. So light has a magnetic field wave perpendicular to an electric field wave. I don't quite understand the magnetic field wave though.

I thought that magnetic fields were not supposed to have a beginning or end. They continuously travel in a loop from north pole to south pole. How then does light's magnetic fields work? Where are the north and south poles and where are the loops? How is it that the diagrams just depict linear magnetic field vectors?

Diagram example: http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&h...=195&start=0&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:0,i:164

I have googled this to a great extent but have not been able to find an answer.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 
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Thanks for the reply ehild.

I know that the light wave is self propagating with its changes in electric flux and magnetic flux.

My question, however, is that in an EM wave are the magnetic field lines also something like concentric circles like that of around a current carrying wire? Or are they really just straight lines pointing in one direction?
 
personpersonp said:
Thanks for the reply ehild.

I know that the light wave is self propagating with its changes in electric flux and magnetic flux.

My question, however, is that in an EM wave are the magnetic field lines also something like concentric circles like that of around a current carrying wire? Or are they really just straight lines pointing in one direction?

The are like concentric circles around the changing electric field lines, which are circles around the magnetic field lines.

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They are not rings but more like flattened ellipses.
 
horizontally is time, so these aren't loops in space like magnetic field line loops.
 
horizontally is time, so these aren't loops in space like magnetic field line loops.
 
BTW i only did the one post, are multiple repeat postings a common bug on PF?

(as you can see the system knows they are both my third post, but has them logged at different times!)
 
it happens sometimes! :smile:

i think it's when you click "Submit Reply" but nothing happens, so you click again :wink:
 

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