How Do Local SU(2) Gauge Transformations Affect Field Components?

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The discussion revolves around deriving the transformation properties of field components \( W_{\mu}^{i} \) under local SU(2) gauge transformations, specifically focusing on the covariant derivative \( D^\mu \Psi \) and its behavior during such transformations. The context is rooted in gauge theory and involves the use of Pauli matrices and related algebraic structures.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the transformation of the covariant derivative and its relation to the fundamental doublet. There are attempts to express the transformation using Taylor expansions and to derive an equation for \( W'_{\mu}^{a} \). Questions arise regarding the meaning of the transformation matrix \( U \) and the treatment of terms involving derivatives and products of fields.

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Several participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing insights into the transformation process and suggesting ways to express variations in terms of known quantities. There is acknowledgment of the complexity in handling certain terms, and while some progress has been made, there remains a lack of consensus on specific details and formulations.

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Participants note the challenge of working with infinitesimal transformations and the implications of gauge theory, including the need to clarify the roles of various mathematical objects like the generators and structure constants. There is also mention of potential confusion regarding the notation and the assumptions made in the problem statement.

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Hi all, (Also - if anybody could tell me how to get the latex to work on this page that'd be very handy!)

While not technically homework this is a problem I've found I'm stuck on during my revision. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Homework Statement


"By demanding that the covariant derivative [itex]D^\mu \Psi [\latex] transforms in the same way as the fundamental doublet [itex]\Psi [\latex] under a local SU(2) gauge transformation, derive how the field components [itex]W_{\mu}^{i}, (i=1,2,3), [\latex] transforms under an infinitesimal such transformation. The Pauli matrix identity [ latex ] (\underline{\sigma} \cdot \underline{a})(\underline{\sigma} \cdot{b}) = \underline{a} \cdot \underline{b} + i \underline{\sigma} \cdot (\underline{a} \times \underline{b}) [\latex], may be assumed."<br /> <br /> <h2>Homework Equations</h2><br /> I think that the following equations are going to have to be used:<br /> [itex]\begin{align}<br /> D_{\mu} &= \partial_{\mu} + igW_{\mu}^{a} t^{a}, \\<br /> [t_{a},t_{b}] &= i C_{abc}t_{c}, \\<br /> \end{align} [\latex]<br /> where [itex]D_{\mu} [\latex] is the modified derivative, g is our coupling constant, W is the field in question, t are the generator matrices and C is the structure constant.<h2>The Attempt at a Solution</h2><br /> Given that the covariant derivative transforms in the same way as the doublet I know we can write [itex]D_{\mu} \psi ----> D'_{\mu} \psi' = U(\underline{x}) (D_{\mu} \psi ) [\latex]. From this we can easily write [itex]D'_{\mu} [\latex]. I've found in my notes a general expression for U (incidentally, what is U? I see it has the same sort of form as the phase for transformations I've seen) as [itex]U(x) = \exp{(-ig\sum_{1}^{n^2 - 1} t_{k} \alpha_{k})} [\latex] where the n = 2 for the case of SU(2). Here I believe [itex]\alpha [\latex] is the phase but I'm not at all sure. The generators for SU(2) are half the Pauli matrices. <br /> <br /> Now, using that we're taking an infinitesimal transformation we can Taylor expand U and so find that [itex]U(x) = I - igt_{k} \alpha_{k} [\latex]. At this point I've substituted most of the equations I've got together in order to try and find the following equation which I believe to be the final answer:<br /> [itex]W'_{\mu}^{a} = W_{\mu}^{a} - \frac{1}{g} \partial_{\mu} \alpha_{a} - C_{abc} W_{\mu}^{c}. [\latex]<br /> <br /> Substituting in I do seem to make some sort of headway but I've not really understood what I've been doing and also how to treat terms like [itex]\partial_{\mu} (\alpha_{a} t_{a} \psi) [\latex].[/itex][/itex][/itex][/itex][/itex][/itex][/itex][/itex][/itex][/itex][/itex][/itex]
 
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Hi, use [tex]\text{[tex]}[/tex] or [itex]\text{[itex]}[/itex][/itex][/tex]
 
Hi all, (Also - if anybody could tell me how to get the latex to work on this page that'd be very handy!)

While not technically homework this is a problem I've found I'm stuck on during my revision. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

1. Homework Statement
"By demanding that the covariant derivative [tex]D^\mu \Psi [/itex] transforms in the same way as the fundamental doublet [tex]\Psi[/tex] under a local SU(2) gauge transformation, derive how the field components [tex]W_{\mu}^{i}, (i=1,2,3),[/tex] transforms under an infinitesimal such transformation. The Pauli matrix identity [tex](\underline{\sigma} \cdot \underline{a})(\underline{\sigma} \cdot{b}) = \underline{a} \cdot \underline{b} + i \underline{\sigma} \cdot (\underline{a} \times \underline{b})[/tex], may be assumed."<br /> <br /> 2. Homework Equations <br /> I think that the following equations are going to have to be used:<br /> [tex]\begin{align}<br /> D_{\mu} &= \partial_{\mu} + igW_{\mu}^{a} t^{a}, \\<br /> [t_{a},t_{b}] &= i C_{abc}t_{c}, \\<br /> \end{align}[/tex]<br /> where [tex]D_{\mu}[/tex] is the modified derivative, g is our coupling constant, W is the field in question, t are the generator matrices and C is the structure constant.3. The Attempt at a Solution <br /> Given that the covariant derivative transforms in the same way as the doublet I know we can write [tex]D_{\mu} \psi ----> D'_{\mu} \psi' = U(\underline{x}) (D_{\mu} \psi )[/tex]. From this we can easily write [tex]D'_{\mu}[/tex]. I've found in my notes a general expression for U (incidentally, what is U? I see it has the same sort of form as the phase for transformations I've seen) as [tex]U(x) = \exp{(-ig\sum_{1}^{n^2 - 1} t_{k} \alpha_{k})}[/tex] where the n = 2 for the case of SU(2). Here I believe [tex]\alpha[/tex] is the phase but I'm not at all sure. The generators for SU(2) are half the Pauli matrices. <br /> <br /> Now, using that we're taking an infinitesimal transformation we can Taylor expand U and so find that [tex]U(x) = I - igt_{k} \alpha_{k}[/tex]. At this point I've substituted most of the equations I've got together in order to try and find the following equation which I believe to be the final answer:<br /> [tex]W'_{\mu}^{a} = W_{\mu}^{a} - \frac{1}{g} \partial_{\mu} \alpha_{a} - C_{abc} W_{\mu}^{c}.[/tex]<br /> <br /> Substituting in I do seem to make some sort of headway but I've not really understood what I've been doing and also how to treat terms like [tex]\partial_{\mu} (\alpha_{a} t_{a} \psi)[/tex].[/tex]
 
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Kali_89 said:
3. The Attempt at a Solution
Given that the covariant derivative transforms in the same way as the doublet I know we can write [tex]D_{\mu} \psi ----> D'_{\mu} \psi' = U(\underline{x}) (D_{\mu} \psi )[/tex]. From this we can easily write [tex]D'_{\mu}[/tex]. I've found in my notes a general expression for U (incidentally, what is U? I see it has the same sort of form as the phase for transformations I've seen) as [tex]U(x) = \exp{(-ig\sum_{1}^{n^2 - 1} t_{k} \alpha_{k})}[/tex] where the n = 2 for the case of SU(2). Here I believe [tex]\alpha[/tex] is the phase but I'm not at all sure. The generators for SU(2) are half the Pauli matrices.

You'll want to write down the expression for the infinitesimal variation [tex]\delta (D_\mu\psi)^a[/tex], expressing it in terms of [tex]\delta \psi^a[/tex] (which you know) and [tex]\delta W_\mu^a[/tex], which you're trying to determine.

Now, using that we're taking an infinitesimal transformation we can Taylor expand U and so find that [tex]U(x) = I - igt_{k} \alpha_{k}[/tex]. At this point I've substituted most of the equations I've got together in order to try and find the following equation which I believe to be the final answer:
[tex]W'_{\mu}^{a} = W_{\mu}^{a} - \frac{1}{g} \partial_{\mu} \alpha_{a} - C_{abc} W_{\mu}^{c}.[/tex]

That's close, but you can see that you have an extra free index on the [tex]CW[/tex] term that isn't on the LHS, so that term is wrong.

Substituting in I do seem to make some sort of headway but I've not really understood what I've been doing and also how to treat terms like [tex]\partial_{\mu} (\alpha_{a} t_{a} \psi)[/tex].

You can expand that term out using the product rule for derivatives. It also might help to put the matrix indices on the [tex](t^a)_{bc}[/tex] and the index on [tex]\psi^a[/tex].
 

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