How do operators combine in quantum mechanics?

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The discussion revolves around the combination of quantum mechanical operators, specifically the operators Ahat and Bhat defined as Ahat = (d/dx + x) and Bhat = (d/dx - x). Participants are exploring the implications of combining these operators and the position and momentum operators, Xhat and Phat, particularly in the context of the expression Phat^2Xhat^2.

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  • Participants are attempting to understand how to combine the operators Ahat and Bhat, as well as how the position and momentum operators interact when combined. There are questions about the form and implications of the resulting operators and their action on functions.

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Some participants have offered assumptions about the form of the operators and their actions, while others express uncertainty regarding the implications of these combinations. Guidance has been provided regarding the need to apply the product rule when acting on functions, and there is an ongoing exploration of how constants factor into the operators.

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Participants are reminded of the forum rules requiring them to show their attempts at solving the problem, which may influence the direction of the discussion. There is also mention of the need to express the operator Phat^2Xhat^2 in terms of Ahat and Bhat, indicating a focus on operator relationships.

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Hello everyone I've got these things buzzing in my head and not exactly knowing how to solve them.

Homework Statement


Operator Ahat = (d/dx + x) and Bhat = (d/dx - x)

a. Chat = AhatAha
b. Chat = AhatBhat

What do the position and momentum operator Xhat = x and Phat = -i*hbar*d/dx, give when they combine as Phat^2Xhat^2?

Thanks a lot
 
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omiros said:
Hello everyone I've got these things buzzing in my head and not exactly knowing how to solve them.

Homework Statement


Operator Ahat = (d/dx + x) and Bhat = (d/dx - x)

a. Chat = AhatAha
b. Chat = AhatBhat

What do the position and momentum operator Xhat = x and Phat = -i*hbar*d/dx, give when they combine as Phat^2Xhat^2?

Thanks a lot
Given ##\hat{P}##, do you know how to find ##\hat{P}^2##?
 
well I can assume it is -H^2*d^2/dx^2 (without being sure)
 
omiros said:
Hello everyone I've got these things buzzing in my head and not exactly knowing how to solve them.

Homework Statement


Operator Ahat = (d/dx + x) and Bhat = (d/dx - x)

a. Chat = AhatAha
b. Chat = AhatBhat

What do the position and momentum operator Xhat = x and Phat = -i*hbar*d/dx, give when they combine as Phat^2Xhat^2?

Thanks a lot

Please remember that you must show your attempt at solving the problem before we can be of tutorial help. That's in the PF Rules link at the top of the page under Site Info.
 
omiros said:
well I can assume it is -H^2*d^2/dx^2 (without being sure)
It's correct, assuming H = ##\hbar##. What makes you unsure?
 
Well what makes me unsure is the way that this acts on x^2. as it goes like d/dx d/dx x x
 
And on the Ahat*Ahat I get a constant in an operator, which I don't know if it is right.
 
omiros said:
Well what makes me unsure is the way that this acts on x^2. as it goes like d/dx d/dx x x

The important thing to remember about operators is that they act on functions. I think what you have to do is to express the operator ##\hat{P^2} \hat{X^2}## in terms of ##\hat{A}## and ##\hat{B}##.
As you said, $$\hat{P^2}\hat{X^2} \equiv -\hbar^2 \frac{d^2}{dx^2} x^2$$ Now act on a function f(x). You will need product rule.
 
So is it left like that or is it written as -2*hbar^2 (differentiate twice x^2)?
 
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omiros said:
So is it left like that or is it written as -2*hbar^2 (differentiate twice x^2)?

What did you get when you computed $$-\hbar^2 \frac{d^2}{dx^2} (x^2 \psi)?$$
I don't know if ##\hat{A}## or ##\hat{B}## have any relevance to the problem or not.

It is okay if you have a constant as part of the operator, as long as you are adding it to a dimensionless quantity.
 

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