How Do Photon Energies Vary in Relativistic Particle Decay?

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The discussion revolves around the relativistic decay of a particle into photons, focusing on the energy and momentum of the resulting photons. The original poster presents a scenario involving a particle collision and subsequent decay, raising questions about the energy distribution of the emitted photons, particularly when they travel in the same direction as the original particle.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand the implications of photon energies when they are emitted in the same direction as the original particle, questioning how their energies can differ despite their fixed speed. Some participants suggest considering the Doppler effect and conservation laws as potential methods for analysis.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, with some suggesting the use of the zero momentum frame to analyze photon energies. There is acknowledgment of multiple approaches, including direct calculations in the lab frame, but no explicit consensus has been reached.

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The original poster indicates confidence in the earlier parts of the problem but expresses confusion specifically regarding the energy of the photons in the context of their decay. The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of photons and their behavior in different frames of reference.

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I have this question.

Give relativistic expressions for the energy E and the magnitude of the momentum p of a particle of mass m moving at speed v. The expression E^2 − p^2c^2 is an invariant in the Special Theory of Relativity. Explain what this means and state the value of the invariant for a single particle.

A particle of mass m moving at speed 3/5c collides with an identical particle at rest, and forms a new particle of mass M which moves off at speed v. Show that v = 1/3c and find an expression for M.

The particle of mass M subsequently decays into two photons, one travelling
in the direction of incidence of the mass m, and the other traveling in the opposite direction. Determine the energy of each photon.

If instead the decay produces photons of equal energies, what are their
momenta and directions?


I have no problem in answering the first two parts of the question. the last part I know how to solve too: by saying photons are moving in opposite directions along the y-axis in the zero momentum frame. It is the third part where photons are moving parallel to x-axis which I don't get. The way it asks is implying that the two photons have different energies. Well fine if it is not a massless particle, in which case the speed of each particle in the stationary frame will have different speed and thus different kinetic/total enery. But with photons and such their speed is fixed, and they don't have mass, so in the zero momentum frame the two photons will have equal magnitude of momentum but in opposite directions and this will be the same in the stationary frame, since there is no change in velocity. So because E=p/c for photons, than they will have the same energy!? I am confused, could somebody sort me out please. thanks a million.
 
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What do you know about the Doppler effect for light?
 
oh i see, why didn't i not realize that before! thanks a lot. So I say that in the zero momentum frame, each photon has same amount of energy i.e. half of the original energy, so use this energy the original emitted frequency can be calculated, than use the Doppler effect for light calculate the observed frequency for each photon, and thus the energy. Is my logic right? thanks ^_^
 
phalanx123 said:
oh i see, why didn't i not realize that before! thanks a lot. So I say that in the zero momentum frame, each photon has same amount of energy i.e. half of the original energy, so use this energy the original emitted frequency can be calculated, than use the Doppler effect for light calculate the observed frequency for each photon, and thus the energy. Is my logic right? thanks ^_^

That is one way to approach the problem. I don't think it would be difficult for two photons to do the calculation directly in the lab frame using conservation of energy and momentum, which would be another approach.
 

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