How do scientists find out what something contains?

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The discussion centers on how scientists determine the composition of various substances, including liquids and organic materials. It explores different methods and techniques used in qualitative and quantitative analysis, as well as the challenges associated with complex mixtures.

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  • Some participants suggest that scientists often burn samples and analyze the resulting color spectrum to identify the elements present, using established reference spectra.
  • One participant mentions the distinction between qualitative analysis, which identifies what is present, and quantitative analysis, which measures how much of each component is in a sample.
  • Another participant lists various analytical techniques such as GCMS, FTIR spectroscopy, UV-Vis spectroscopy, NMR spectroscopy, and AAS, noting that different methods may be required depending on the sample type.
  • It is noted that for complex biological materials, the focus may be more on the quantity of specific compounds rather than exact composition.

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Participants present multiple methods and approaches for analyzing substances, indicating that there is no single procedure applicable to all samples. The discussion reflects a range of techniques and considerations without reaching a consensus on a preferred method.

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The discussion highlights the complexity of analyzing biological materials and the limitations of certain techniques in providing detailed compositional information.

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This discussion may be useful for students and professionals interested in analytical chemistry, materials science, and methods of substance analysis in various contexts.

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How do scientists find out what something contains, like a liquid, or a mushy ball of crushed leafs. Do they do a bunch of tests, or do they put it through a machine which then gives them the answer. Also how do they know that what they`ve got after an reaction is actually what the wanted and not some rare phenomena.
 
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A lot of times, scientists can figure out what something contains by burning a sample up and looking at the color spectrum of the atoms in the vapor.

The way this works is that over time a lot of scientists have performed these tests on specially made samples of pure substances, and use those color spectra as a reference written in books or websites.

These color spectra are unique to each kind of atom and molecule; they are an optical fingerprint.

That way, when they burn up an unknown sample, they can figure out if it has the spectrum of one of the substances they know about (or a mixture of a few different ones).
 
If you're concerned with the content of a solution, look up Qualitative Analysis. Quantitative Analyses is concerned with how much stuff there is in a sample. Good luck.
 
Google for GCMS, FTIR spectroscopy, UV-Vis spectroscopy, NMR spectroscopy, AAS (Atomic absorption spectroscopy) and so on. In the case of a mixture typical approach is to separate compounds first, identify them second (although not always - in AAS we can try to analyze everything at once, but AAS doesn't tell us much about compounds present, just spits out elemental composition).

There is no single procedure that will work for every sample. Besides, especially when it comes to biological materials which are insanely complicated mixtures, we are rarely interested in knowing exact composition, we are more interested in knowing how much of a particular compound is present.
 
I will take a look at that, thanks :)
 

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