How Do Stellar Winds Impact the Elemental Composition of Planets?

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The discussion centers on how stellar winds influence the elemental composition of planets, particularly focusing on the differences between Earth and other planets in the solar system. Participants explore the origins of elements, the processes of planetary formation, and the implications of these factors on the potential for life.

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  • Some participants assert that all elements originated in stars and question why Earth is dominated by certain elements over others.
  • One participant suggests that the density of materials influenced the formation of rocky inner planets compared to gas giants, which are primarily composed of hydrogen.
  • Another participant proposes that a specific mix of elements is necessary for life, implying that planets with compositions like Saturn would not support life as we know it.
  • Temperature at which elements freeze is mentioned as a factor that differentiates the composition of inner rocky planets from outer gas giants.
  • One participant describes the formation of Earth in relation to the Sun's birth and the impact of a nearby supernova, noting that lighter gases were blown away, affecting the elemental composition of terrestrial planets.
  • A detailed explanation is provided regarding the sources of elements, including nucleosynthesis during the Big Bang, in stars, and in supernovas, along with the process of fractionation that determines which elements remain on Earth.
  • Another participant emphasizes the role of stellar winds in shaping the elemental profiles of forming planets, suggesting that this area may yield significant insights in future studies.

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Participants express various viewpoints on the factors influencing planetary composition, with no consensus reached on the specific mechanisms or implications. Multiple competing views remain regarding the significance of stellar winds, elemental origins, and the conditions necessary for life.

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Some claims rely on assumptions about the processes of planetary formation and the behavior of elements under different conditions, which are not fully resolved in the discussion.

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All elements are/ were made in stars, correct?

Why is Earth predominated by certain elements and not by others?

Does the composition of elements of other planets in our system differ from earth?
If so, why?
 
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Pretty much everything started out as Hydrogen, and over a very long time, was fused into heavier and heavier elements and then dispersed throughout the galaxy/universe to form other planets/stars.

I think it has to do with density as to why the inner planets (Mecury through Mars are predominatly rocky, when the solar system was just being formed, the denser stuff was pulled more toward the center.

Yes, the elemental composition of other planets differs from Earth to a degreel. The most obvious differences would be the gas giants such as Jupiter and Saturn which are mostly Hydrogen. also, Mars in red due to its high concentration of Iron Oxide in the soil, not to say that Earth doesn't have just as much if not more Iron, it is just that Mars has it so prominantly displayed.
 
more posts, please
 
I think you'll get more answers here in GA&C! :smile:
 
Does the composition of elements of other planets in our system differ from earth?
If so, why?
It possible that it requires a certain mix of elements to allow a form of life to view it. (If we had a similar composition to Saturn, for example, life as we know it wouldn't exist and the question would never arise)
 
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Consider the temperature at which various elements 'freeze'. Inner planets tend to be rock [high melting point], outer planets tend to be gas [low melting point].
 
I found this:

Earth formed as the Sun itself was being born in a great disk of hot gas that came together when a nearby star exploded in a supernova. Earth was created hot, from the energy of many smaller bodies falling into it and adding to its mass. As the Sun ignited, it blew away almost all of the light gases hydrogen and helium from around Earth (these gases became part of Jupiter and Saturn). The same story applies to Mercury, Venus, and Mars, the other terrestrial (rocky) planets.
 
The elements we have here on good 'ol planet Earth come from one of three sources:

nucleosynthysis during the big bang
---produced H and He (75% by weight of H)
---a trace of D and Li
nucleosynthysis in stars
---this makes elements up to Fe
nucleosynthysis in supernovas
---this makes any element, and all heavier than Fe

So that's where elements come from. To get to Earth, they go through fractionation, which is the process of sorting out some elements from others. For instance, there is lots of Si, O, N, C in and on Earth because they are chemically reactive and form non-volatile substances, like rocks. Other elements, like He, Ne, Xe etc are very very rare on Earth because they don't form chemical compounds that will stick around. They are volatile gases that go away during planetary accretion.

So it's two steps: elements are formed in the BB, in stars, and in supernovas, then they are sorted depending on their chemical reactivity and stability.

That's a brief writeup on a long, and fascinating, topic. Hope that helps!
 
It does. Thanks Tropo and a very welcome to Physics Forums.
 
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Ratzinger said:
It does. Thanks Tropo and a very welcome to Physics Forums.
As you have found, the era when a star ignites has important effects on the environs in which its planets are forming. Very energetic stars exert a pressure that clears light elements and even dust from their environs. The elemental profiles of the planets that are forming in these voids are highly dependent on when and how strongly the "stellar winds" from the nascent star developed. This is likely to be a very rich field of study in the future as we discover more about planets orbiting other stars.
 

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