How do telescopes allow us to see light sources millions of light years away?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the ability of telescopes to detect light from astronomical sources millions of light years away, exploring the concepts of signal attenuation, power, and intensity in the context of astronomy.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion about how signals from distant light sources can be detected, questioning whether they should be too weak after traveling such long distances.
  • One participant notes that astronomical signals start off as very large, implying that their initial strength plays a role in detectability.
  • Another participant clarifies definitions, stating that power is energy per unit time and intensity is power per unit area, which may relate to how signals are perceived.
  • It is mentioned that telescopes with large apertures can gather significantly more light than the human eye, enhancing detection capabilities.
  • Participants discuss the practice of spending extended periods collecting light from specific areas in the sky, as exemplified by the Hubble telescope's ability to gather light over weeks to build images.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that telescopes enhance light collection capabilities, but there remains uncertainty about the implications of signal attenuation and the definitions of power and intensity.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the implications of signal attenuation over distance, nor have they clarified how power and intensity specifically relate to the detectability of distant astronomical sources.

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i have heard how our broadcasts will be seen by aliens far away or whatever.
but i realize those signals are going to "attenuate" by d^-2

anyway...
how come in astronomy we can see light sources millions of light years away? shouldn't those signals be far too weak to detect after such a long distance?furthermore i am confused about the concepts of "power" and "intensity"

say we have a 100kw isotropic radio antenna
so at, say, 5 meters away, what is our power? what is our intensity? (assume vacuum)
 
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Clay said:
how come in astronomy we can see light sources millions of light years away? shouldn't those signals be far too weak to detect after such a long distance?
They start off as really really big signals.
 
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Power is energy per unit time. Intensity is power per unit area (where the area is measured perpendicular to the direction the light is coming from).
 
Clay said:
i have heard how our broadcasts will be seen by aliens far away or whatever.
but i realize those signals are going to "attenuate" by d^-2

anyway...
how come in astronomy we can see light sources millions of light years away? shouldn't those signals be far too weak to detect after such a long distance?
1. We use telescopes with large apertures that can gather much more light than our eyes can.
2. We spend a lot of time gathering light from what our telescope is pointed at. The Hubble telescope can spend weeks looking at a single spot in the sky, slowly collecting light in order to build up an image.
 
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