How Do Velocities Affect Collision and Proximity in Particle Dynamics?

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The discussion revolves around the dynamics of two particles, A and B, with given velocities and initial positions. The participants are exploring how these velocities affect the relative position and potential collision of the particles over time.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the integration of the particles' velocities to determine their relative positions. There are questions about the correct interpretation of the problem statement and the integration process, particularly regarding the constants involved and the conditions for collision.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants attempting to clarify their understanding of the relative position of the particles and the conditions for collision. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to account for initial conditions when integrating, but there is no explicit consensus on the next steps or the correctness of the initial interpretations.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework problem, which may limit the information available and the methods they can use. There is an emphasis on ensuring that the integration reflects the initial conditions accurately.

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1.Two particles A and B have velocities 3i and vj respectively (in m/s).
(a) Find the position of B relative to A for all t given that r (b relative to a)
(t=0) = -9i+6j (in metres).

(b) Find the value of v such that A and B collide.

(c) If v=1 m/s, find the time and distance when A and B are closest together.
3. Well, firstly i drew it out. A= 3i+0j , B=0i+vj. Then I integrated A and B and let it equal to -9i+6j and I got t=3 and v=2. I also got the angle to be 33.69°. I don't know what to do after that of if anything i got is right.
 
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Is that the way the problem statement is stated your textbook?

If particle [itex]A[/itex] is only moving along the [itex]x-axis[/itex] and particle [itex]B[/itex] is only moving along the [itex]y-axis[/itex], their relative position is always going to be the hypotenuse of a right triangle with a side being a multiple of [itex]3[/itex] and another being a multiple of [itex]v[/itex]. Can you figure out what the expression for the position of [itex]B[/itex] relative to [itex]A[/itex] for all [itex]t[/itex] is given their relative position at [itex]t=0[/itex]?
 
Yes, that is the way the problem is stated.

So the relative position is vj-3i ?
 
Jastrabik said:
So the relative position is vj-3i ?
No, that's the relative velocity. You were right to integrate that (I assume v is constant).
But I'm not sure what you meant by this:
I integrated A and B and let it equal to -9i+6j and I got t=3
When you integrate you get an unknown constant, and you have to find the value of that from initial conditions. What general formula did you get for relative position?
 
When I integrate A= 3i , I will get 3ti + constant and B= vj so that it will be vtj + constant. I added the t because, the answer has to be with respect to time. And then I let it equal to -9i+6j= -3ti +vtj

So you mean that relative position is basically + vtj -3ti because its B relative to A.

And from that I can say that v has to be 2 for them to collide, but what about part 3?
 
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Jastrabik said:
When I integrate A= 3i , I will get 3ti + constant and B= vj so that it will be vtj + constant.
Right so far.
then I let it equal to -9i+6j= -3ti +vtj
No. You need to find out what the two constants are. To do that you use the information about the position when t = 0.
 

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