How do we know if a resistor is added or subtracted?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the application of Kirchhoff's voltage law (KVL) in circuit analysis, specifically regarding how to determine whether to add or subtract resistors in calculations based on their orientation relative to the current flow.

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  • The original poster questions the reasoning behind adding or subtracting resistors in circuit analysis, seeking clarity on the concept of "uphill" and "downhill" resistors. Other participants discuss the importance of potential changes rather than the resistors themselves, referencing KVL and the direction of current flow to explain potential rises and drops.

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Participants are exploring the conceptual framework of KVL and its application in circuit analysis. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of potential changes in relation to current direction, but there is no explicit consensus on the original poster's confusion about resistor placement.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about identifying voltage changes across resistors and the implications of resistor placement in a circuit with a single loop. There is an acknowledgment of potential misunderstandings due to fatigue.

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I was reading in my physics book about loop currents. However, some resistors are added to the result (R*I) whereas some resistors are subtracted from the result -(R*I). The book uses the phrase "uphill" and "downhill" to describe this, and, indeed, the so called "uphill" resistors where the values are added instead of subtracted the chosen current was headed north as it passed through them, but I doubt that can be the rule.

My answer, however, is WHY does this work? Is it not possible to construct a circuit where the resistor could be on either side of the loop (like a circuit with only one loop, a battery and two resistors?)

So how do we know whether to add or subtract resistors?

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k_squared said:
So how do we know whether to add or subtract resistors?
You don't add or subtract resistors. It's the potential changes that are added or subtracted. Have you studied Kirchhoff's voltage law? The term "uphill" indicates rise in potential and "downhill" indicates drop in potential. In any circuit loop, the sum of all the potential changes is ZERO.
 
KVL I understand (or at least I think I do. However, I can't seem to identify whether the voltage drops or rises across a resistor. (Sorry that I may have worded that poorly, I've been up for 22 hours.)
 
When you are analyzing a circuit using KVL the first thing you do is assign currents through all the components, usually indicated by arrows showing their assumed directions (whether those assumed directions turn out to be correct or not doesn't matter, the math will take care of sorting that out). When you do your "KVL walk" around a loop, the rule is that if you walk though a component in the same direction as its designated current, then a potential drop occurs. If you walk through the component against the flow of the current, then a potential rise occurs. To extend your book's analogy, it's like following a stream where the running water represents the current flow. If you walk against the flow you are moving uphill. If you walk with the flow, you are moving downhill.
 
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k_squared... Perhaps try posting an example circuit, apply the method gneill describes and we can see where you are going wrong if at all.
 

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