How do we measure energy density of radiation?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the measurement of energy density of radiation, specifically in the context of cosmology. Participants explore how the energy density from various sources, including the cosmic microwave background (CMB) and other potential contributions, is quantified.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that the energy density of matter is approximately 0.3, measured through galaxy motion and gravitational lensing.
  • Another participant mentions that the energy density due to vacuum is around 0.7, linked to the expansion rate and associated with dark energy.
  • A participant proposes that the radiation contribution is approximately 10^{-4} and questions how this is measured or if it is theoretical.
  • One participant asserts that the radiation density corresponds to the energy density of the CMB, which has been measured directly.
  • Another participant queries whether other sources, such as electromagnetic radiation from supernovae, contribute to radiation density.
  • A response indicates that the CMB comprises nearly all of the radiation ever emitted in terms of energy density, suggesting minimal contribution from other sources.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the significance of the CMB in contributing to radiation energy density, but there is some debate regarding the potential contributions from other sources, such as supernovae.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the extent to which other forms of radiation contribute to the overall energy density, leaving some assumptions and dependencies on definitions unaddressed.

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I have that the energy density of matter approx 0.3 , so this is measured by galaxy motion / gravitational lensing etc, that's fine.

I have that the energy density due to the vacuum is 0.7, so this is measured by the expansion rate- the common suspect being dark energy.

I have radiation contribution approx 10^{-4}. How is this measured? Or is this theoretical?

Thanks
 
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The radiation density is the energy density of the CMB, and has been measured directly.
 
Chalnoth said:
The radiation density is the energy density of the CMB, and has been measured directly.

nothing else contributes? like when a star explodes, the EM radiation given off then e.g?
 
binbagsss said:
nothing else contributes? like when a star explodes, the EM radiation given off then e.g?
Not to any significant degree. The CMB comprises nearly all of the radiation ever emitted, by energy density.
 
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