How do we represent a triangle wave for input voltage in this circuit?

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The discussion revolves around representing a triangle wave for input voltage in a specific circuit context, as presented in Agarwal's Foundations of Analog and Digital Circuits. Participants are examining the behavior of the circuit with respect to the input voltage and the diode's role in different voltage conditions.

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  • Participants discuss the conditions under which the diode operates and how to express the triangle wave in the context of the circuit. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between the input voltage and the output voltage, as well as the implications of using a triangle wave function defined over a specific interval.

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Some participants have provided corrections to expressions related to the output voltage, while others are questioning the assumptions about the input voltage's functional form. The conversation is ongoing, with various interpretations of how to approach the representation of the triangle wave being explored.

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There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the intended functional form of the input voltage, with references to other waveforms such as sine waves. The discussion reflects uncertainty about how these different forms might affect the problem at hand.

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Homework Statement
Assuming the diode can be modeled as an ideal diode, and ##R_1=R_2##, plot the waveform ##v_0(t)## for the circuit below assuming a triangle wave input.
Relevant Equations
Write an expression for ##v_0(t)## in terms of ##v_i, R_1##, and ##R_2##.
This problem is from Agarwal's Foundations of Analog and Digital Circuits.

Here is the circuit.
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Here is my own picture of the circuit with circuit variables

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If ##v_0<0## then we replace the diode with a short circuit and

$$v_i=i_1R_1$$

$$i_3=-i_1$$

$$v_0=0$$

If ##v_0\geq 0## then we replace the diode with an open circuit and

$$v_i=i_1R_1+i_1R_2=2Ri_1$$

$$i_1=i_2$$

$$v_0=i_1R_2=v_i\frac{R_2}{R_1}$$

At this point we would sub in an expression representing the triangle wave that is ##v_i##.

I'm not sure exactly how this would be in this context. I have used a periodic triangle wave function defined as ##f(t)=|t|## on ##t\in [-\pi, \pi)## which I then expressed as a Fourier series.

For the purposes of this problem, how would I represent the triangle wave?
 
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Hi,

Check your ##v_0=i_1R_2=v_i\frac{R_2}{R_1}##

##f(t)=|t|## is a triangle wave plus a constant voltage. That's not what the exercise composer intended.

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You are right, I missed a factor of 2 in the denominator of the expression for ##v_0##. Here is the correction

$$v_0=i_1R_2=v_i\frac{R}{2R}=\frac{v_i}{2}$$

##f(t)=|t|## is indeed always positive but making this symmetric about the ##x##-axis is just a question of offsetting by a constant, right?

In any case, it does not seem that the assumption about what exactly the functional form of the input voltage ##v_i## is is relevant to this problem.

We could sub in many different functional forms. It's just a substitution. Or maybe I am missing something?
 
zenterix said:
what exactly the functional form of the input voltage vi is
Would you say that if the exercise mentioned 'sine wave' instead of 'triangle' wave ?

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