How do we solve the ODE for the initial value problem with Burger's equation?

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The discussion revolves around solving the initial value problem for the Burger's equation with viscosity, specifically focusing on the formulation and integration steps involved in deriving expressions for the function \( u \) based on the initial condition \( u(0,x) = g \).

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  • Participants discuss the integration of the equation related to \( \phi(0,x) \) and the implications of missing a constant of integration. There is also a focus on confirming the correctness of the boundary conditions and the steps taken in the derivation.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the integration process and its implications. Some participants have raised points about the need for a constant of integration, while others seek clarification on specific steps without posing direct questions.

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Participants note discrepancies in the boundary conditions mentioned in the problem setup, indicating a potential area for clarification. The discussion also highlights the importance of constants in integration, particularly in the context of the initial value problem.

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We consider the initial value problem for the Burger's equation with viscosity given by
$$\begin{cases} \partial_t u-\partial^2_xu+u\partial_xu=0 & \text{in}\quad (1,T)\times R\\\quad \quad \quad \quad \quad u(0,\cdot)=g & \text{on}\quad \{t=0\}\times R \end{cases}$$
(1) We know that ##u(0,x)=g## so the substitution of the Burger equation gives $$u(0,x)=\boxed{g=\frac{-2}{\phi(0,x)}\frac{\partial}{\partial x}\phi(0,x)}$$ which is a separable ODE for ##\psi:=\phi(0,x)##. \\\\To solve the ODE, we re-write the equation
$$\Rightarrow \frac{\partial}{\partial x}\Big[ln(\phi(0,x))\Big]=-\frac{g}{2}$$
and integrate
$$\Rightarrow \int\frac{\partial}{\partial x}\Big[ln(\phi(0,x))\Big]dx=-\int \frac{g}{2} dx$$
$$\Rightarrow ln(\phi(0,x))=-\int \frac{g}{2} dx$$
then exponentiate
$$\Rightarrow \phi(0,x)=\boxed{exp(-\int\frac{g}{2}dx)}$$
 

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Looks ok. Are you just seeking confirmation?
You did misquote a boundary as (1,T) instead of (0,T).
 
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Technically you are missing a constant of integration. This will not affect ##u(0,\cdot)## however as it will cancel between denominator and numerator in the definition of ##u## in terms of ##\phi##.

Was there a question here?
 
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Orodruin said:
you are missing a constant of integration
It was left as an indefinite integral.
 
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haruspex said:
Looks ok. Are you just seeking confirmation?
You did misquote a boundary as (1,T) instead of (0,T).
Orodruin said:
Technically you are missing a constant of integration. This will not affect ##u(0,\cdot)## however as it will cancel between denominator and numerator in the definition of ##u## in terms of ##\phi##.

Was there a question here?

Thanks! :bow: No questions, but I was unsure about the following step.

docnet said:
and integrate
$$\Rightarrow \int\frac{\partial}{\partial x}\Big[ln(\phi(0,x))\Big]dx=-\int \frac{g}{2} dx$$
$$\Rightarrow ln(\phi(0,x))=-\int \frac{g}{2} dx$$
 
docnet said:
Thanks! :bow: No questions, but I was unsure about the following step.
Yes, that's fine.
 
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