How Do You Calculate Change in Kinetic Energy and Momentum for a Turning Loader?

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a 15,000 kg loader changing direction from traveling east at 20 km/h to south at 25 km/h. Participants are tasked with calculating the change in kinetic energy and linear momentum during this maneuver.

Discussion Character

  • Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of formulas for kinetic energy and momentum, with some expressing confusion about the vector nature of momentum. There are attempts to clarify how to handle the change in direction and the need to separate vectors into components.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints regarding the vector nature of momentum and suggested using graphical methods or components to approach the problem. There is acknowledgment of the need to consider both magnitude and direction in the calculations, but no consensus has been reached on the exact method to proceed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding vector subtraction and the heat-to-tail method for resolving the problem, indicating that the original poster may have overlooked these aspects in their calculations.

MPat
Messages
15
Reaction score
1

Homework Statement


A 15 000kg loader traveling east at 20km/h turns south and travels at 25km/h. Calculate the change in the loader's
a) kinetic energy
b) linear momentum

Homework Equations


ΔKE= 1/2mvf^2 –1/2mvi^2
Δp= mv2 –mv1
m= 15000
vi = 20km/h = 5.56m/s
vf= 25km/h = 6.94m/s

The Attempt at a Solution


[/B]
Part A I think I got.

Part B is where I am confused.
I am using Δp= mv2 –mv1
I substitute the numbers in
Δp= 15000*6.94 -15000*5.56
The magnitude of Δp that I arrive at is equal to 20 700...is that correct?

Also, when I am trying to find the change in direction when subtracting vectors you simply add the opposite direction. so rather than using east, i add my vector pointing south and add the initial vector but pointing west?

I then use this to calculate the angle for the direction. Is this right?

I tried to add an image to show you my diagram...but can't seem to figure out how!

Thanks in advance!
 
Physics news on Phys.org
I am using Δp= mv2 –mv1
I substitute the numbers in
Δp= 15000*6.94 -15000*5.56
hint: momentum is a vector, and so is velocity
... so ##\Delta \vec p = \vec p_f - \vec p_i = m(\vec v_2-\vec v_1)##
... try subtracting the vectors by the heat-to-tail method.

But notice: you are not asked to find the magnitude of the change in momentum.
 
Last edited:
Simon Bridge said:
hint: momentum is a vector, and so is velocity
... so ##\Delta \vec p = \vec p_f - \vec p_i = m(\vec v_2-\vec v_1)##
... try subtracting the vectors by the heat-to-tail method.

But notice: you are not asked to find the magnitude of the change in momentum.
Thank you!

I think I got it, it's essentially the hypotenuse formed by the triangle...my numbers weren't adding up because I was forgetting that I had to separate the vectors into components, N-S and E-W.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Simon Bridge
MPat said:
Thank you!

I think I got it, it's essentially the hypotenuse formed by the triangle...my numbers weren't adding up because I was forgetting that I had to separate the vectors into components, N-S and E-W.

Sometimes it's usful to look at vectors graphically, but you can also look at vectors as pairs (x, y) or triplets (x, y, z). In this case, you have:

Initial velocity ##= (u_x, u_y)##

Final velocity ##= (v_x, v_y)##

That might be an easier way to calculate the change in velocity and momentum in this case.
 

Similar threads

Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
4K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
4K
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
Replies
7
Views
5K