How Do You Calculate Final Speed with Constant Acceleration?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the final speed of a car that is initially traveling at 25 m/s and accelerates at a constant rate of 3 m/s² over a time period of 5 seconds. Participants are exploring the application of kinematic equations in the context of constant acceleration.

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  • Some participants attempt to apply the kinematic equations but express confusion about their application and the arithmetic involved. Others suggest writing out the equation of motion to clarify the relationship between initial velocity, final velocity, time, and acceleration.

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There is a mix of attempts to understand the problem through both conceptual reasoning and mathematical application. Some participants provide guidance on using standard formulas for uniform acceleration, while others question the reliance on formulas versus understanding the underlying concepts. The discussion reflects a variety of interpretations and approaches without a clear consensus on the best method to solve the problem.

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Participants note the importance of understanding the units involved and the meaning of acceleration in practical terms. There is also mention of the pressure of exams and the necessity of being familiar with formulas, which adds a layer of complexity to the discussion.

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1. A car initially traveling 25 m/s accelerates at a constant rate of 3 m/s squard After 5 seconds How fast is the car traveling



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I tried divdeing 25 m/s by 3 an then add 5 but didnt get the right answer

Aslo i tried divding it by 25 m/s by 5 adding 3 still wrong though

im stuck an lost help please
 
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Can you wright the equation of motion, which gives the relation between initial velocity, final velocity, time interval and acceleration?
 
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NukeNuke said:
A car initially traveling 25 m/s accelerates at a constant rate of 3 m/s squard After 5 seconds How fast is the car traveling

Hi NukeNuke! Welcome to PF! :smile:

You need one of the following standard formulas for uniform acceleration:

v = u + at
v2 = u2 + 2as
s = ut + at2/2

(You should know these by heart)

If you don't know what they mean, you will need to look them up. :smile:
 


v = u + at
v= final velocity = ?
u = initial velocity = 25m/s
a = acceleration = 3m/s^2
t = time = 5sec
Putting these values in equation:
v = 25 + 5*3
v = 40m/s

So would this be right?
 
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NukeNuke said:
v = u + at

v = 25 + 5*3
v = 40m/s

So would this be right?

Yup! :smile:
 
NukeNuke said:
1. A car initially traveling 25 m/s accelerates at a constant rate of 3 m/s squard After 5 seconds How fast is the car traveling



Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


I tried divdeing 25 m/s by 3 an then add 5 but didnt get the right answer

Aslo i tried divding it by 25 m/s by 5 adding 3 still wrong though

im stuck an lost help please

Don't think of it in formulas. Those formulas are just arbitrary symbols on a piece of paper meant to represent the real thing. Feynman said in his 1961 lecture that "the beauty of math is that you don't know what you're talking about. The equation is independent of what the thing really is".

A car initially traveling 25 m/s accelerates at a constant rate of 3 m/s squard After 5 seconds How fast is the car traveling

Think of the matrix (film). Time is almost standing still. You look at the speedometer of the car, and it says the car is moving 25 meters every second that passes. If the car did not accelerate at all, it would have moved 50 meters in any two seconds of time that passes.

This car, however, is speeding up. For every second that passes, the car goes faster by 3 meters per second.

After 1 second, the speed is 28 meters per second. After 2 seconds, the speed is 31 meters per second.

If this continues for 5 seconds, how fast is that car going to be moving?
 
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CaptainADHD said:
Don't think of it in formulas. Those formulas are just arbitrary symbols on a piece of paper meant to represent the real thing. Feynman said in his 1961 lecture that "the beauty of math is that you don't know what you're talking about. The equation is independent of what the thing really is".

NukeNuke, I completely disagree that you shouldn't think of it in formulas!

You won't pass the exams if you don't learn these three formulas …

you don't have time to work everything out from elementary principles in the exam … and even if you did, the examiners would deduct marks for it :frown:

though, of course, an understanding of the reality does help you to see why the equations work, and helps you to remember them. :wink:

btw, Feynman seems to be agreeing with me … he says the equations are the important thing (he goes on to say you don't have to know what they mean in reality … but I suspect he was talking about quantum field theory rather than cars on roads). :smile:
 
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tiny-tim said:
NukeNuke, I completely disagree that you shouldn't think of it in formulas!

You won't pass the exams if you don't learn these three formulas …

you don't have time to work everything out from elementary principles in the exam … and even if you did, the examiners would deduct marks for it :frown:

though, of course, an understanding of the reality does help you to see why the equations work, and helps you to remember them. :wink:

btw, Feynman seems to be agreeing with me … he says the equations are the important thing (he goes on to say you don't have to know what they mean in reality … but I suspect he was talking about quantum field theory rather than cars on roads). :smile:

Oh I agree that for complicated stuff, you can't sit there and wrap your brain around everything that is happening at once. Engineers don't try to picture the entire skyscraper and all forces acting on it in their heads, they use formulas for components.

BUT the formulas represent something real that you can touch or see or measure somehow. The question itself in this case was simple. What made it hard was using all the arbitrary symbols used by people that have done problems like these 1000 times. To tell someone that to find final velocity you must use a kinematic equation modeling one dimensional horizontal movement is like saying that to beat a fire dragon, use this water magic book of spells.

I think formulas and symbols confuse the hell out of people learning physics for the first time. The hardest part of physics for me is just trying to understand what the squiggly lines on a piece of paper are supposed to represent.
 
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CaptainADHD said:
I think formulas and symbols confuse the hell out of people learning physics for the first time.

That's why it's so important to practise using them, and to learn the ones that tend to come up in the exams!
 
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I might have did this wrong again aint it 25 plus 5 times 3 an the units is m/s or km/h

cause i keep getting the answer wrong
 
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NukeNuke said:
I might have did this wrong again aint it 25 plus 5 times 3 an the units is m/s or km/h

Yes, it's 25 + (3 x 5). :smile:

Write out "a rate of 3 m/s squared" in full …

it really means "a rate of 3 m/s per second" …

so the speed goes up by 3m/s for every second …

so, for 5 seconds, the speed goes up by 15m/s. :smile:
 

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